How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[Saddleworth2]

He does describe it as ‘dreamy’ and ‘simplistic’. He’s right in -pointing out that their ’dream‘ is dead in the water, which raises the question of what direction the country will head in and when they’ll actually hoist a sail.

They have. It’s called austerity.

 

[west didsblue]

Neoliberals hated the restrictions of the EU because it stunted their ability to exploit without restraint and make loadsamoney. Left wing radicals hated the EU because it constrained the state from refashioning the economy in favour of working men and women.

Now the lettuce has gone the neoliberal dream is over, and with Corbyn and his followers in the wilderness, the socialist dream is dead as well.

So we've ended up with the worst of all worlds.

I’d say it’s left us with little choice than to go back with our tails between our legs. It will take a few years for enough people to realise this.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Henry Bolton on LBC this morning spouting the usual ‘everyone else is to blame for brexit failure’ and bemoaning that it was great idea but badly implemented.
Apparently there was no cogent plan to implement it (no shit) not even from those who told us how wonderful it was going to be - not even ukip. he told us.
Eventually he was requested to provide a brexit benefit- guess what?
The best he had was that as far as he could see things were pretty much as they were before brexit…..not much of a selling point.
On top of that the public phone in was almost entirely hostile.
Still, it was another uncovering of the sheer stupidity of the whole thing and that has to be good.

Agreed.

We're not going anywhere good until there's acceptance.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I didn’t know you felt this way

Yeah, I’ve only just come round to this way of thinking. Previously kept my views to myself.

 

[The perfect fumble]

I’d say it’s left us with little choice than to go back with our tails between our legs. It will take a few years for enough people to realise this.

Depends.

Normal politics is dead so precedent isn't the guide it was. If it all goes to shit rapidly, things could move very quickly.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Can somebody confirm that we have to do huge amounts of paperwork to export to Europe while they do not have to do the same to export to us?

Don’t think so.
I know of small companies that will no longer deliver to the U.K. because of the hassle involved.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I’d say it’s left us with little choice than to go back with our tails between our legs. It will take a few years for enough people to realise this.

If that’s ten years down the line you can guarantee that the red white and blue card will be played again.
Anyone not flying the flag will be traitors to Britain again.

 

[BrianW]

The remaining Brexit nutters remind me of Communists.

You know the line. 'Communism is great. It's just that it's never been properly implemented.'

They will never admit, in either case, that the whole concept is simply impracticable. They are like the Moonies or the berks who think the Rapture is coming next week. To be honest, I've no fucking patience with them. They have ruined this country's future and they haven't even the decency to admit it and apologise.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Brian you must have watched enough TV recently to realise that no matter what damage caused to the well-being of the UK, or the economy, the spineless slaves of the arrogant and odious ERG who drove the Brexit campaign will NEVER apologise for anything.

There are some twats in the electorate who want fucking Boris back !!

Were you expecting Truss to apologise for causing such catastrophic damage to the economy due to her stupidity and arrogance ? I suspect that many of us thought that was the least we could have expected but guess what ? Not a word of remorse, regret or an apology . And she gets to keep her PM pension !

The country is fucked now unless the people who believed the shit and lies of the Tories wake up and cause an election.

The worry then is that the Labour Party will not be capable or able to undo the fucking mess we have been handed.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Brian you must have watched enough TV recently to realise that no matter what damage caused to the well-being of the UK, or the economy, the spineless slaves of the arrogant and odious ERG who drove the Brexit campaign will NEVER apologise for anything.

There are some twats in the electorate who want fucking Boris back !!

Were you expecting Truss to apologise for causing such catastrophic damage to the economy due to her stupidity and arrogance ? I suspect that many of us thought that was the least we could have expected but guess what ? Not a word of remorse, regret or an apology . And she gets to keep her PM pension !

The country is fucked now unless the people who believed the shit and lies of the Tories wake up and cause an election.

The worry then is that the Labour Party will not be capable or able to undo the fucking mess we have been handed.

They never apologise simply because they don’t believe that whatever they have done is wrong and needs apologising for.
If brexit fails or truss’s lunatic notions go tits up, it’s everyone else’s fault and, in fact, we should be apologising to them for not recognising their genius.