How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[Mr Kobayashi]

So anyone who enjoys waving his or her flag is a small minded idiot? You come out with some tosh :)

Can you read it again I'm not sure you have understood it.

Let's bring it back on topic.

Not every Brexit voter is a racist but every racist voted for Brexit... get the point now.

 

[Octavian]

Improvised flags are better.

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That’s absolutely brilliant haha !

 

[JASR]

It’s shite like what this Stefanovic has said that makes the layman not trust those who backed remain either… I don’t trust ardent brexiteers generally. A 3hr queue for any traveller EU or not, is a load of shite and piss poor management. US media outlets would kick off if they had to wait that long for them to travel in the UK. I expect to wait longer than EU nationals but 3 hours is piss poor and something has gone wrong for it to be that long.

I think you’ll find that people flying into a country/group of countries that isn’t there’s are always treated badly…
Before brexit you must have seen the queues (or the slowness) in uk arrivals for non uk/eu passport holders?
The same occurs in the US, for nonUS passport holders.
So basically it is shite, but happens everywhere… it just didn’t happen for uk in Europe… because we were in the EU… amazing what people take for granted as ‘normal’ and then complain when they voted to exit that ‘normal’

 

[Octavian]

Can you read it again I'm not sure you have understood it.

Let's bring it back on topic.

Not every Brexit voter is a racist but every racist voted for Brexit... get the point now.

Didn’t you call me a gammon recently ?

I voted remain ;-)

 

[Octavian]

I think you’ll find that people flying into a country/group of countries that isn’t there’s are always treated badly…
Before brexit you must have seen the queues (or the slowness) in uk arrivals for non uk/eu passport holders?
The same occurs in the US, for nonUS passport holders.
So basically it is shite, but happens everywhere… it just didn’t happen for uk in Europe… because we were in the EU… amazing what people take for granted as ‘normal’ and then complain when they voted to exit that ‘normal’

I notice how you’ve not put a general time limit in your response.

I’ve flown all around the world and cannot remember waiting up to 3 hours.

30 mins maybe an hour, yeah fine, not 3 hours.

 

[mexico1970]

Can you read it again I'm not sure you have understood it.

Let's bring it back on topic.

Not every Brexit voter is a racist but every racist voted for Brexit... get the point now.

I read it again and you're a WUM.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I don’t have one in my garden but how do you come to that conclusion about people without speaking to them?

If someone puts a pride flag in their garden are they a small minded idiot or are you only allowed to be proud of stuff you agree with?

That's a minority flag,so it isn't the same thing at all.

Lets assume for argument sake that you do have a flag.

Why do you need to fly the flag of your own country every day of the year unless you are insecure or it is part of performative behaviour.

Why do other's have to see your flag, why can't you enjoy it in private?

 

[JASR]

That's a minority flag,so it isn't the same thing at all.

Lets assume for argument sake that you do have a flag.

Why do you need to fly the flag of your own country every day of the year unless you are insecure or it is part of performative behaviour.

Why do other's have to see your flag, why can't you enjoy it in private?

I agree with the sentiment of stop forcing your views visually on others, but … there’s stacks out there that already do that, it’s no different :
Signs of a fish, deities on dashboard in vehicles.
Any religious symbols worn - crosses, hats, veils etc.
Even Football shirts.

 

[Octavian]

That's a minority flag,so it isn't the sams thing at all.

Lets assume for argument sake that you do have a flag.

Why do you need to fly the flag of your own country every day of the year unless you are insecure or it is part of performative behaviour.

Why do other's have to see your flag, why can't you enjoy it in private?

The same reason anyone flies any flag, they want to advertise the fact they’re proud of what it represents.

Im going to make a big presumption here, but I honestly think you likely only feel this way when you see our flag.

 

[Octavian]

I agree with the sentiment of stop forcing your views visually on others, but … there’s stacks out there that already do that, it’s no different :
Signs of a fish, deities on dashboard in vehicles.
Any religious symbols worn - crosses, hats, veils etc.
Even Football shirts.

You think people wearing veils need to stop forcing their views visually on others?

The irony of that statement is amazing.

They can wear what they want and it’s none of your business.

 

[JASR]

You think people wearing veils need to stop forcing their views visually on others?

The irony of that statement is amazing.

They can wear what they want and it’s none of your business.

Err… that’s the point I was making.
id rather not have religion /united shirts shoved in front of me, but it’s not going to happen/nor is it right.

 

[Octavian]

Err… that’s the point I was making.
id rather not have religion /united shirts shoved in front of me, but it’s not going to happen/nor is it right.

Apologies I misunderstood first time of reading and that’s my fault as it’s obvious what you meant.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Didn’t you call me a gammon recently ?

I voted remain ;-)

In my explanation before did I tell you that gammon is always racist?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Those queuing at the airport have something else to groan about when its something that they voted for all along.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I agree with the sentiment of stop forcing your views visually on others, but … there’s stacks out there that already do that, it’s no different :
Signs of a fish, deities on dashboard in vehicles.
Any religious symbols worn - crosses, hats, veils etc.
Even Football shirts.

These are transient symbols. Flag shaggers displays are permanent.

If I ever have a flag pole, the first flag on display will be the DPRK.

 

[Octavian]

In my explanation before did I tell you that gammon is always racist?

It kinda means that tho right? It’s an angry white man who’s bigoted generally

 

[JASR]

These are transient symbols. Flag shaggers displays are permanent.

If I ever have a flag pole, the first flag on display will be the DPRK.

If you lived next door to a united fan (poor you, but presumably not in Manchester) the shirt would be a permanent feature of them every match day (and longer if they happen to win)?

similar to a car parked next door with a religious symbol.

its not … nice… maybe… but it’s a free country… despite whatever the person displaying a symbol/flag/shirt might actually think.

until the flag becomes a nazi one, or maybe at the moment a Russian one, then…

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

It kinda means that tho right? It’s an angry white man who’s bigoted generally

Performative jingoism too. You literally argued it was a racial slur. Why on earth would anyone not a gammon do that?

 

[Octavian]

Performative jingoism too. You literally argued it was a racial slur. Why on earth would anyone not a gammon do that?

When did I say it was a racial slur?
I honestly think you stereotype people too much.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

If you lived next door to a united fan (poor you, but presumably not in Manchester) the shirt would be a permanent feature of them every match day (and longer if they happen to win)?

similar to a car parked next door with a religious symbol.

its not … nice… maybe… but it’s a free country… despite whatever the person displaying a symbol/flag/shirt might actually think.

until the flag becomes a nazi one, or maybe at the moment a Russian one, then…

That’s not the point, I don't want to have the right to have it take it down. I'd just rather they didn't fly it all the time.

I see rags around here, I just assume they have a mild learning difficulty if they aren't embarrassed to wear it in public.