how small we really are

[somapop]

Great thread.
My OCD visuliases alien life forms as evolving into plates of black glass/monoliths. Feasible right? Look at the discovery of Graphene and what might be possible with that material. Technology is slowly turning into cyborgs, so I can imagine a material as mentioned above becoming used in conjunction with our own biology (aren't 'nano bots' injected into our bodies for repairing cells on the horizon).
Triple glazed hyper intelligent sheets of perspex hovering around distant planets, emailing themselves into the internet before being printed out on 3D printers before taking over our planet.
Either that or they'll resemble this fella below:

 

[PJMCC1UK]

Well i'll use Professor Cox instead to the point i was making

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2809183/We-universe-Professor-Brian-Cox-says-alien-life-impossible-humanity-unique.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... nique.html</a>

You've got to stop doing this. GeorgeHannah is equally religious and does the same thing and neither of you understand why it is wrong.

I DON'T CARE WHAT OFF HAND COMMENTS SOME SCIENTIST MAKES.

Nobody cares what Einstein says, what Brian Cox says, what Isaac Newton says or what anybody else says.

Scientists aren't given authority like thta. Their authority comes from published articles showing the evidence. When you link me to one that Brian Cox has written then we can have a chat about the things he said and whether they hold merit. Just because he says something it doesn't make it any more or less true than your opinion

You have no idea how 'religious' this poster is or how 'religious' I am but I do find it amusing that you attribute a lack of understanding to anyone who points out the inadequacies of your own utterly discredited views on scientific method. The Cox argument about the impossibility of alien life is from his TV current series soon to be published as The Human Universe by the OU, It's actually a staging post to his view on a multiverse, but let's take his points at face value, in short he says there is no evidence for the possibility that the conditions for life as we have it may exist anywhere else in the known universe. Where has Cox gone wrong then Damo?

..and you should really refrain from embarrassing yourself with your philistine chant that nobody cares about what anyone says outside a scientific journal, it is really is most foolish.

He didn't. He said no intelligent life in this GALAXY. A galaxy isn't The Universe, despite the DM confusing both within 2 paragraphs.

The biological process which lead to intelligent life on earth was a fluke that is unlikely to have been repeated anywhere else in the universe, claims Professor Brian Cox.
The presenter and scientist blames a series of 'evolutionary bottlenecks' for the lack of extraterrestrial life on other planets, despite there being a mind-bogglingly vast number of them in the galaxy.

Let him clarify himself. http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/10670019/No-we-re-not-on-our-own-Brian-Cox-clarifies

 

[tonea2003]

You've got to stop doing this. GeorgeHannah is equally religious and does the same thing and neither of you understand why it is wrong.

I DON'T CARE WHAT OFF HAND COMMENTS SOME SCIENTIST MAKES.

Nobody cares what Einstein says, what Brian Cox says, what Isaac Newton says or what anybody else says.

Scientists aren't given authority like thta. Their authority comes from published articles showing the evidence. When you link me to one that Brian Cox has written then we can have a chat about the things he said and whether they hold merit. Just because he says something it doesn't make it any more or less true than your opinion

You have no idea how 'religious' this poster is or how 'religious' I am but I do find it amusing that you attribute a lack of understanding to anyone who points out the inadequacies of your own utterly discredited views on scientific method. The Cox argument about the impossibility of alien life is from his TV current series soon to be published as The Human Universe by the OU, It's actually a staging post to his view on a multiverse, but let's take his points at face value, in short he says there is no evidence for the possibility that the conditions for life as we have it may exist anywhere else in the known universe. Where has Cox gone wrong then Damo?

..and you should really refrain from embarrassing yourself with your philistine chant that nobody cares about what anyone says outside a scientific journal, it is really is most foolish.

He didn't. He said no intelligent life in this GALAXY. A galaxy isn't The Universe, despite the DM confusing both within 2 paragraphs.

The biological process which lead to intelligent life on earth was a fluke that is unlikely to have been repeated anywhere else in the universe, claims Professor Brian Cox.
The presenter and scientist blames a series of 'evolutionary bottlenecks' for the lack of extraterrestrial life on other planets, despite there being a mind-bogglingly vast number of them in the galaxy.

Let him clarify himself. http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/10670019/No-we-re-not-on-our-own-Brian-Cox-clarifies

Brian Cox ✔ @ProfBrianCox
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FOR LAST TIME: I think life is common in universe. We MAY be only civ. in Milky Way. There WILL be other civilisations in univ. #shutupnow
5:36 AM - 28 Oct 2014

i wonder if george is so enthusiastic now

 

[George Hannah]

You've got to stop doing this. GeorgeHannah is equally religious and does the same thing and neither of you understand why it is wrong.

I DON'T CARE WHAT OFF HAND COMMENTS SOME SCIENTIST MAKES.

Nobody cares what Einstein says, what Brian Cox says, what Isaac Newton says or what anybody else says.

Scientists aren't given authority like thta. Their authority comes from published articles showing the evidence. When you link me to one that Brian Cox has written then we can have a chat about the things he said and whether they hold merit. Just because he says something it doesn't make it any more or less true than your opinion

You have no idea how 'religious' this poster is or how 'religious' I am but I do find it amusing that you attribute a lack of understanding to anyone who points out the inadequacies of your own utterly discredited views on scientific method. The Cox argument about the impossibility of alien life is from his TV current series soon to be published as The Human Universe by the OU, It's actually a staging post to his view on a multiverse, but let's take his points at face value, in short he says there is no evidence for the possibility that the conditions for life as we have it may exist anywhere else in the known universe. Where has Cox gone wrong then Damo?

..and you should really refrain from embarrassing yourself with your philistine chant that nobody cares about what anyone says outside a scientific journal, it is really is most foolish.

He didn't. He said no intelligent life in this GALAXY. A galaxy isn't The Universe, despite the DM confusing both within 2 paragraphs.

The biological process which lead to intelligent life on earth was a fluke that is unlikely to have been repeated anywhere else in the universe, claims Professor Brian Cox.
The presenter and scientist blames a series of 'evolutionary bottlenecks' for the lack of extraterrestrial life on other planets, despite there being a mind-bogglingly vast number of them in the galaxy.

Let him clarify himself. http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/10670019/No-we-re-not-on-our-own-Brian-Cox-clarifies

Cox distinguishes between simple and complex life and at the conclusion of the programme clearly says he thinks we are the only complex or intelligent life in an infinite galaxy. Whether he's right or not is another matter but what you call his clarification is a fudge. When he says there WILL be civilizations in the the universe he's talking multiverse.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0276pxp/human-universe-3-are-we-alone" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... e-we-alone</a>

for those who can't access the BBC player - here are his last few sentences on an mp3 clip

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnnR76JEehk&feature=youtu.be[/video]

 

[Damocles]

Of course he isn't. He has the scientific understanding of a small plankton. He tried to use Cox's out of context remarks as some sort of battering ram and ended up how he always does - looking like he's as thick as a hard boiled egg. Here's the best bit:

but let's take his points at face value, in short he says there is no evidence for the possibility that the conditions for life as we have it may exist anywhere else in the known universe. Where has Cox gone wrong then Damo?

Quick somebody update this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_potentially_habitable_exoplanets" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_po ... exoplanets</a>

because George has once again fucked up and reality needs changing for him again.

 

[George Hannah]

You've got to stop doing this. GeorgeHannah is equally religious and does the same thing and neither of you understand why it is wrong.

I DON'T CARE WHAT OFF HAND COMMENTS SOME SCIENTIST MAKES.

Nobody cares what Einstein says, what Brian Cox says, what Isaac Newton says or what anybody else says.

Scientists aren't given authority like thta. Their authority comes from published articles showing the evidence. When you link me to one that Brian Cox has written then we can have a chat about the things he said and whether they hold merit. Just because he says something it doesn't make it any more or less true than your opinion

You have no idea how 'religious' this poster is or how 'religious' I am but I do find it amusing that you attribute a lack of understanding to anyone who points out the inadequacies of your own utterly discredited views on scientific method. The Cox argument about the impossibility of alien life is from his TV current series soon to be published as The Human Universe by the OU, It's actually a staging post to his view on a multiverse, but let's take his points at face value, in short he says there is no evidence for the possibility that the conditions for life as we have it may exist anywhere else in the known universe. Where has Cox gone wrong then Damo?
..and you should really refrain from embarrassing yourself with your philistine chant that nobody cares about what anyone says outside a scientific journal, it is really is most foolish.

Of course he isn't. He has the scientific understanding of a small plankton. He tried to use Cox's out of context remarks as some sort of battering ram and ended up how he always does - looking like he's as thick as a hard boiled egg. Here's the best bit:
Quick somebody update this:
<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_potentially_habitable_exoplanets" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_po ... exoplanets</a>
because George has once again fucked up and reality needs changing for him again.

it's pitiful to see you embarrass yourself yet again

 

[Damocles]

Another winning reply, I loved the way you cleanly counter the point that there are numerous already discovered Earth like planets all over the galaxy which you only seem to have just learnt.

You're right that one of us embarrasses themselves when they jump into these scientific threads and consistently gets things just flat wrong.

 

[George Hannah]

Another winning reply, I loved the way you cleanly counter the point that there are numerous already discovered Earth like planets all over the galaxy which you only seem to have just learnt.

You're right that one of us embarrasses themselves when they jump into these scientific threads and consistently gets things just flat wrong.

just open your ears, listen to the programme and then try to engage your brain to match the contents to the points made in my post. Potentially habitable planets etc are not part of the discussion.

 

[Damocles]

A potentially habitable planet ISN'T evidence for the possibility that the conditions for life as we have it may exist anywhere else in the known universe?

A bold theory

 

[George Hannah]

A potentially habitable planet ISN'T evidence for the possibility that the conditions for life as we have it may exist anywhere else in the known universe?
A bold theory

His theory, not mine. Cox takes some trouble earlier in the programme to cover the billions of exo planets where life could evolve but on the subject of the total absence of alien civilizations either now or in the past his conclusions are perfectly clear. We are unique and alone. Then of course he starts his multiverse trip and maybe we are not so special after all. There could be an infinite number of universes, which makes him feel a lot better apparently.