how small we really are

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Absence of Alien Civilisations? That's like standing on Blackpool beach and declaring that Ireland doesn't exist because you can't see it!

 

[George Hannah]

Absence of Alien Civilisations? That's like standing on Blackpool beach and declaring that Ireland doesn't exist because you can't see it!

but on a rare clear day you can see the isle of man and from there you can see the emerald isle, Cox seems to have upset a few of his friends with this programme and is curently in a revisionist phase I think.

 

[aguero93:20]

Absence of Alien Civilisations? That's like standing on Blackpool beach and declaring that Ireland doesn't exist because you can't see it!

I've seen Scotland from the causeway but I still deny it's existence.

 

[PJMCC1UK]

You have no idea how 'religious' this poster is or how 'religious' I am but I do find it amusing that you attribute a lack of understanding to anyone who points out the inadequacies of your own utterly discredited views on scientific method. The Cox argument about the impossibility of alien life is from his TV current series soon to be published as The Human Universe by the OU, It's actually a staging post to his view on a multiverse, but let's take his points at face value, in short he says there is no evidence for the possibility that the conditions for life as we have it may exist anywhere else in the known universe. Where has Cox gone wrong then Damo?

..and you should really refrain from embarrassing yourself with your philistine chant that nobody cares about what anyone says outside a scientific journal, it is really is most foolish.

He didn't. He said no intelligent life in this GALAXY. A galaxy isn't The Universe, despite the DM confusing both within 2 paragraphs.

The biological process which lead to intelligent life on earth was a fluke that is unlikely to have been repeated anywhere else in the universe, claims Professor Brian Cox.
The presenter and scientist blames a series of 'evolutionary bottlenecks' for the lack of extraterrestrial life on other planets, despite there being a mind-bogglingly vast number of them in the galaxy.

Let him clarify himself. http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/10670019/No-we-re-not-on-our-own-Brian-Cox-clarifies

Cox distinguishes between simple and complex life and at the conclusion of the programme clearly says he thinks we are the only complex or intelligent life in an infinite galaxy. Whether he's right or not is another matter but what you call his clarification is a fudge. When he says there WILL be civilizations in the the universe he's talking multiverse.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0276pxp/human-universe-3-are-we-alone" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... e-we-alone</a>

for those who can't access the BBC player - here are his last few sentences on an mp3 clip

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnnR76JEehk&feature=youtu.be[/video]

I really like how you try and interpret his words to suit your argument. Rather than taking his words as they are. He says he believes we are the only intelligent life in this galaxy. Quite clearly he also states as his Tweet shows, that he accepts the possibility of life in the universe.

 

[George Hannah]

He didn't. He said no intelligent life in this GALAXY. A galaxy isn't The Universe, despite the DM confusing both within 2 paragraphs.



Let him clarify himself. http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/10670019/No-we-re-not-on-our-own-Brian-Cox-clarifies

Cox distinguishes between simple and complex life and at the conclusion of the programme clearly says he thinks we are the only complex or intelligent life in an infinite galaxy. Whether he's right or not is another matter but what you call his clarification is a fudge. When he says there WILL be civilizations in the the universe he's talking multiverse.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0276pxp/human-universe-3-are-we-alone" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... e-we-alone</a>

for those who can't access the BBC player - here are his last few sentences on an mp3 clip

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnnR76JEehk&feature=youtu.be[/video]

I really like how you try and interpret his words to suit your argument. Rather than taking his words as they are. He says he believes we are the only intelligent life in this galaxy. Quite clearly he also states as his Tweet shows, that he accepts the possibility of life in the universe.

He uses the phrase "we are an island of meaning in an infinite sea of stars" his tweet assertion that other civilizations 'WILL exist' is clearly predicated on the concept of a multiverse.

 

[1.618034]

Absence of Alien Civilisations? That's like standing on Blackpool beach and declaring that Ireland doesn't exist because you can't see it!

but on a rare clear day you can see the isle of man and from there you can see the emerald isle, Cox seems to have upset a few of his friends with this programme and is curently in a revisionist phase I think.

No. What's happened is that you, and others, who perhaps have a particular belief system(?), have misconstrued what he actually said. In that clip he twice mentions us "perhaps" being unique in the "galaxy" and once calls it the "Milky Way". Not the entire universe. Or even a hint that he's talking multiverses...

It makes me question whether you know the difference...?

 

[George Hannah]

Absence of Alien Civilisations? That's like standing on Blackpool beach and declaring that Ireland doesn't exist because you can't see it!

but on a rare clear day you can see the isle of man and from there you can see the emerald isle, Cox seems to have upset a few of his friends with this programme and is curently in a revisionist phase I think.

No. What's happened is that you, and others, who perhaps have a particular belief system(?), have misconstrued what he actually said. In that clip he twice mentions us "perhaps" being unique in the "galaxy" and once calls it the "Milky Way". Not the entire universe. Or even a hint that he's talking multiverses...

It makes me question whether you know the difference...?

You also seem to have a Damocletian hearing affliction. Please have the grace listen to his programme for goodness sake. His conclusions are perfectly clear and what you consider my or your belief system construes is utterly irrelevant. On the subject of multiverses, it may well be that I don't grasp the concept, if you do well congratulations but if you listen to the end of the programme you will learn a little more at least.

 

[PJMCC1UK]

I really like how you try and interpret his words to suit your argument. Rather than taking his words as they are. He says he believes we are the only intelligent life in this galaxy. Quite clearly he also states as his Tweet shows, that he accepts the possibility of life in the universe.

He uses the phrase "we are an island of meaning in an infinite sea of stars" his tweet assertion that other civilizations 'WILL exist' is clearly predicated on the concept of a multiverse.

Someone said you are religious in a previous post. You do seem to use religious reasoning to make your point. Countless times I have been told how the bible is very clear but has been misinterpreted except by the religious person. That seems to be happening here.
His reason for posting that tweet was because he was questioned about what the DM article had said. He even made a clarification on what he meant in an interview.
Yet you still seem to take it as how you want to believe. It's all ''very clear'', but only to you somehow.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

Isn't the size our galaxy pretty much tiny to that of the size of universe?

I may not fully get it, but Cox is saying we seem to be only intelligent life in our galaxy, not the whole of universe.

 

[1.618034]

but on a rare clear day you can see the isle of man and from there you can see the emerald isle, Cox seems to have upset a few of his friends with this programme and is curently in a revisionist phase I think.

No. What's happened is that you, and others, who perhaps have a particular belief system(?), have misconstrued what he actually said. In that clip he twice mentions us "perhaps" being unique in the "galaxy" and once calls it the "Milky Way". Not the entire universe. Or even a hint that he's talking multiverses...

It makes me question whether you know the difference...?

You also seem to have a Damocletian hearing affliction. Please have the grace listen to his programme for goodness sake. His conclusions are perfectly clear and what you consider my or your belief system construes is utterly irrelevant. On the subject of multiverses, it may well be that I don't grasp the concept, if you do well congratulations but if you listen to the end of the programme you will learn a little more at least.

I'm always learning George. Always.

In the clip you posted, he does NOT say anything other than it is his opinion that we may be unique in our own Galaxy/The Milky Way. The word universe wasn't mentioned.

As for what he said on the rest of the programme, I can't comment as I haven't heard it... Yet. But I will be watching it at some point so I'll listen carefully. Just for you.

If you're going to post something to prove a point then it might help you if it did just that.

Maybe it's his use of the word "inifite" that you're struggling with? And in that regard you're the one that's being "Damocletian".

;-)