Howard Webb

[malg]

After today, if you don't understand how we are refereed differently you are an imbecile.

Also, if you don't realise why Ferguson won so much domestically then you're a ****.

 

[borassic]

Same old bollocks, different thread. Lets put a few myths to bed as far as penalties are concerned. If you look at the last five seasons (2010 onwards) there are a few surprises, at least as far as conspiracy theorists are concerned. Most Premier League penalties in that time? Manchester City. Least penalties conceded in that time? Manchester City. Now, if you supported other teams you might think there was something going on...
Just for completeness.
Team Penalties for. Penalties against
City. 41. 14
Utd. 34. 17
Arsenal. 27. 28
L'pool. 38. 24
Chelsea. 38. 17
Everton. 21. 22
Spurs. 25. 22
Newcastle. 15. 28

I think if you looked at stats regarding length of time spent in the opposition box then City would be at the top too.

 

[BigOscar]

Same old bollocks, different thread. Lets put a few myths to bed as far as penalties are concerned. If you look at the last five seasons (2010 onwards) there are a few surprises, at least as far as conspiracy theorists are concerned. Most Premier League penalties in that time? Manchester City. Least penalties conceded in that time? Manchester City. Now, if you supported other teams you might think there was something going on...
Just for completeness.
Team Penalties for. Penalties against
City. 41. 14
Utd. 34. 17
Arsenal. 27. 28
L'pool. 38. 24
Chelsea. 38. 17
Everton. 21. 22
Spurs. 25. 22
Newcastle. 15. 28

Or you could use your eyes and see the blatant penalties not given to us every fucking week? Or the amount of "soft" penalties other teams get. Nah, fuck actually watching games, lets just use stats

 

[Gundogan's Moustache]

Same old bollocks, different thread. Lets put a few myths to bed as far as penalties are concerned. If you look at the last five seasons (2010 onwards) there are a few surprises, at least as far as conspiracy theorists are concerned. Most Premier League penalties in that time? Manchester City. Least penalties conceded in that time? Manchester City. Now, if you supported other teams you might think there was something going on...
Just for completeness.
Team Penalties for. Penalties against
City. 41. 14
Utd. 34. 17
Arsenal. 27. 28
L'pool. 38. 24
Chelsea. 38. 17
Everton. 21. 22
Spurs. 25. 22
Newcastle. 15. 28

Does that mean we can forget the three stonewall penalties we should of had on Sterling , Aguero and Navas in the last couple of weeks ?

 

[dickie davies]

Same old bollocks, different thread. Lets put a few myths to bed as far as penalties are concerned. If you look at the last five seasons (2010 onwards) there are a few surprises, at least as far as conspiracy theorists are concerned. Most Premier League penalties in that time? Manchester City. Least penalties conceded in that time? Manchester City. Now, if you supported other teams you might think there was something going on...
Just for completeness.
Team Penalties for. Penalties against
City. 41. 14
Utd. 34. 17
Arsenal. 27. 28
L'pool. 38. 24
Chelsea. 38. 17
Everton. 21. 22
Spurs. 25. 22
Newcastle. 15. 28

That 41 should be more like 51 with the number of nailed on pens not given
We've had two not given in the last seven days

 

[RyanP3609]

Same old bollocks, different thread. Lets put a few myths to bed as far as penalties are concerned. If you look at the last five seasons (2010 onwards) there are a few surprises, at least as far as conspiracy theorists are concerned. Most Premier League penalties in that time? Manchester City. Least penalties conceded in that time? Manchester City. Now, if you supported other teams you might think there was something going on...
Just for completeness.
Team Penalties for. Penalties against
City. 41. 14
Utd. 34. 17
Arsenal. 27. 28
L'pool. 38. 24
Chelsea. 38. 17
Everton. 21. 22
Spurs. 25. 22
Newcastle. 15. 28

And can you tell me when those penalties were given? I.E. Times of the match/final score of the game? As without even looking at any I'd be fairly sure that a lot of our penalties are given when we are cruising in a game up by at least 2/3 goals. Whereas the scum get pens when they are drawing and need a victory or to salvage a result. I'd hazard a guess at that anyways.

Even if that isn't true (I cba checking) that still doesn't ignore the fact we've not had the last three stonewallers (two of which were in a game we lost). Meanwhile the scum are handed pen's when they matter, today being a prime example.

We've had 3 this season meanwhile Leicester have had 8, we SHOULD be on 6. Nothing you can show me can change that fact.

 

[bluetev]

Same old bollocks, different thread. Lets put a few myths to bed as far as penalties are concerned. If you look at the last five seasons (2010 onwards) there are a few surprises, at least as far as conspiracy theorists are concerned. Most Premier League penalties in that time? Manchester City. Least penalties conceded in that time? Manchester City. Now, if you supported other teams you might think there was something going on...
Just for completeness.
Team Penalties for. Penalties against
City. 41. 14
Utd. 34. 17
Arsenal. 27. 28
L'pool. 38. 24
Chelsea. 38. 17
Everton. 21. 22
Spurs. 25. 22
Newcastle. 15. 28

Just for "completeness" could you remind us
- Any other team which had FOUR clearcut penalty appeals denied against their derby opponents in just one match, one of which would have been last man / red card, not to mention the odd elbow offence overlooked (the return match saw a couple of offside goals against us just to mix it up)
- a clearer penalty being denied along with a yellow card for diving, than the one "awarded" to Aguero vs Southampton 1-2 seasons back.
- Which one of the three penalties denied to us recently (sterling v Sunderland, Aguero v Leicester, navas v Everton) did not have significantly more contact than the Manure "penalty" today.

Of course, as you pointed out, city still have more penalties awarded though. Do you think might have any correlation to the amount of time we spend camped around the opponents penalty box?

 

[Ajm1985]

I'm fairly certain that City have scored the most goals in the past 4 years, created most chances, created most clear cut chances, had more possession in oppositions area and more touches in the area. If not top, there abouts. There is a huge correlation between the above and penalties given (and conversely penalties awarded against us).

None of the stats highlight the ineptitude of some the decision making from the refs. Whether it's an intentional bias or they are just shite, the level of officiating is shocking

 

[hertsblue]

If i was th club i would be sending the FA a video of all our recent turned down penalties and theirs today and ask for an explanation. at least we can let them know we are onto them.

 

[stablemcfc]

Same old bollocks, different thread. Lets put a few myths to bed as far as penalties are concerned. If you look at the last five seasons (2010 onwards) there are a few surprises, at least as far as conspiracy theorists are concerned. Most Premier League penalties in that time? Manchester City. Least penalties conceded in that time? Manchester City. Now, if you supported other teams you might think there was something going on...
Just for completeness.
Team Penalties for. Penalties against
City. 41. 14
Utd. 34. 17
Arsenal. 27. 28
L'pool. 38. 24
Chelsea. 38. 17
Everton. 21. 22
Spurs. 25. 22
Newcastle. 15. 28

Whilst I'm in agreement with you about conspiracy theories being nonsense & those stats certainly show the pattern you'd expect to see given how we play - I'm sure on one of the paranoid threads there were stats banging around that we were & have been for a while one of, if not the least fouled team in the league for years, which was surprising given the players we have and our style (if they were true stats; didn't bother researching myself) - it would be interesting to see them stats if people still had them.

I remember last season (or the season before perhaps) where we got a ton of lucky decisions in regards to offsides etc. This season feels the opposite, majority of 50:50 decisions seem to have gone the other way, with 3 pretty clear penalties not being given of late so I can at least understand the frustrations even if I put it down to swings & roundabouts whilst others may claim conspiracy. Got no excuses for Webb though, claiming Aguero's stonewaller against Leicester was not a penalty was ludicrous frankly.