HS2 - Birmingham to Manchester scrapped.

Adebayor's Skidmarks said:
I think these petitions that automatically trigger a Parliamentary debate once they reach a certain number of signatures are fairly pointless to be honest, except maybe as just another barometer of public opinion. I can't think of any policy that has actually changed as a result of one. The media don't appear to be speculating as yet so I would be very surprised if this one was any different.
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Some do get changed as a result of petitions. The government u-turn on extending free school meals (Marcus Rashford's campaign) was last Autumn if I'm not mistaken.
 
The Government should have been forced to build the f*cking thing in reverse order starting with the North and working South. You'd pretty much guarantee they would have worked their arses off to get it finished instead of fannying around and binning it half way (which I honestly think was the intention all along).
 
The scrapping of the Leeds HS2 extension hides the real dissapointment of the cancelling of HS3 or any new line linking Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool. Upgrades of existing lines just arnt as good and cause huge delays while they are inacted. Crossrail 2 will be built before any new cross country line is built in the so called northern powerhouse. Politicians are all the same, London centric.
 
There is no prospect of the railway service being improved in the forseeable future for any of us. HS2 is still a pipedream. Extensions to it will not happen for decades and it will be proven to be one of the most expensive white elephants ever - should it ever be completed. There is no prospect of ticket prices coming down, and in the absence of that happening, the vicious circle of under funding/lack of investment/unreliability of what is already an inadequate service for many will continue.
Half of the £90B investment referred to today takes account of the HS2 investment already announced, so the remainder is money which, like much of the rolling stock, will probably never arrive as the plans will hit the buffers as soon as the purse strings need to be tightened again.
And in the meantime, reliance on road and air travel in the UK will continue to expand. So much for the greening of our economy. Good job City are back this weekend so we don't have to think too much about shite like this.
 
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

London's train infrastructure surges ahead - meanwhile the North waits

“This part of the network is the buckle in the belt of the North's rail network."
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Sums it up. Delay after delay followed by cuts for the north. Thats the Westminster track record! While Burnham pushes ahead with the biggest low emmission zone, aka stealth congestion charge tax in Europe. Leaving people in Greater Manchester with no alternative due to the woeful investment in public transport. Come the revolution. I wish.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
The scrapping of the Leeds HS2 extension hides the real dissapointment of the cancelling of HS3 or any new line linking Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool. Upgrades of existing lines just arnt as good and cause huge delays while they are inacted. Crossrail 2 will be built before any new cross country line is built in the so called northern powerhouse. Politicians are all the same, London centric.
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Anyone with half a brain knows Liv-Manc-Leeds commute was crucially needed to improve the north. That was the investment that I was desperate to happen and as ever, these tossers that only care about the south east haven’t done it.
 
I wonder if all those who sold their houses at massive profit (John Bishop) to make way for the new line will now buy back their old places at huge discount!
 
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