HS2 - Birmingham to Manchester scrapped.

One of the main reasons for HS2 to be built was to increase capacity, yet the minister of transport, Grant Shapps, this morning on BBC, when selling the benefits of the investment into local train lines, told us capacity will be increased because of upgraded digital signalling
So what he's actually said without saying it is there was no need at all for HS2
 
Laos new HS silk road rail link is now fully running fromChina across the nation to the capital and the next phase to go from vientienne to bangkok set to be complete in 4 years



Started in in 2016, 4 years after HS2 was signed off, it was completed in 4.5 years while we cannot even finish the first phase.

We are a joke of a nation at times
 
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ganganvince said:
Debate due 13th Sept Personally hope it's binned.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The HS2 rail link should be scrapped, senior Tories say

The future of the HS2 rail link is due to be discussed in the Commons on September 13 after more than 155,000 people signed a petition calling for it to be axed.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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at the moment it would be nice to return to 3 trains an hour on the existing line.

1 train an hour between london and Manchester is just bollox
 
Announced today that HS2 is being delayed north of Birmingham. For delayed read mothballed and then scrapped.

This is to suposedly to save costs, on a project that has more than doubled since conception. How a delay of several years reduces overall costs, im not sure. Better to complete ASAP thus reducing costs and then spread repayment out over a longer period. Unless you just want it scrapped.

Should have started in the north and headed south. They would have never dared to finish at Birmingham or Oxford and not complete it at London.

Good old levelling up at work. Expect a 100m sop for the north and a couple of small tram extensions for Manchester and Sheffield announced near the next GE.
 
dickie davies said:
One of the main reasons for HS2 to be built was to increase capacity, yet the minister of transport, Grant Shapps, this morning on BBC, when selling the benefits of the investment into local train lines, told us capacity will be increased because of upgraded digital signalling
So what he's actually said without saying it is there was no need at all for HS2
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Grant Schapps is just another clueless tory lackey.
You surely don't expect him to actually know anything about railways....
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Announced today that HS2 is being delayed north of Birmingham. For delayed read mothballed and then scrapped.

This is to suposedly to save costs, on a project that has more than doubled since conception. How a delay of several years reduces overall costs, im not sure. Better to complete ASAP thus reducing costs and then spread repayment out over a longer period. Unless you just want it scrapped.

Should have started in the north and headed south. They would have never dared to finish at Birmingham or Oxford and not complete it at London.

Good old levelling up at work. Expect a 100m sop for the north and a couple of small tram extensions for Manchester and Sheffield announced near the next GE.
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It was never needed in the first place. That wasted money would have been much better spent improving rail links between northern citys.
 
They should rename such ‘flagship’ projects as ‘Mary Rose‘ projects; hugely expensive and ultimately underwhelming.
 
Rochdale Blue said:
It was never needed in the first place. That wasted money would have been much better spent improving rail links between northern citys.
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Increase in train capacity is needed. If you are doing that the argument has always been spend a bit more and get high speed.

I'm massively disappointed tbh. Linking the north west and Manchester with HS2 would have brought jobs and further investment to the City.
 
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