HS2 - Birmingham to Manchester scrapped.

[TinFoilHat]

"It is going to be scrapped but isn't...HS2 will run to Birmingham and will then join the WCML to continue its journey to Manchester."

Once it leaves Birmingham it's at the mercy of Network Rail and other train operators.

In other words it's will terminate at Brum and anyone going any further will be sardined in local XC/WC services to Manchester so it can never be late.


First group getting the West Coast extension makes sense now.

 

[staffsblue]

"It is going to be scrapped but isn't...HS2 will run to Birmingham and will then join the WCML to continue its journey to Manchester."

Once it leaves Birmingham it's at the mercy of Network Rail and other train operators.

In other words it's will terminate at Brum and anyone going any further will be sardined in local XC/WC services to Manchester so it can never be late.


First group getting the West Coast extension makes sense now.

The clueless Tories and equally clueless media keep referring to the northern limit of phase 1 as "Birmingham" when it is in fact Handsacre Junction which will be between Lichfield and Rugeley.
At least Manchester, Liverpool and Glasgow trains will be able to whoosh at 250mph to there, and then slow to a crawl at Colwich Junction where the line speed is 50mph.

 

[Manchester33]

Anyone voting for the conservatives at the next election needs their brain checking.

 

[asgoodasitgets]

Anyone voting for the conservatives at any election needs their brain checking.

 

[bluesince76]

BBC now doing one of those reports where they can tell you exactly what Sunak is going to say tomorrow and it's been scrapped.

If he actually spends the money on a decent rail service from Liverpool to Leeds, it's probably the right decision but he'll probably go for Crossrail 37 to shave 30.seconds off a journey in London

 

[normskih]

If he actually spends the money on a decent rail service from Liverpool to Leeds.
The Manchester-Liverpool could do with upgrading too. I take it the Liverpool-Leeds also includes Manchester-Leeds?

 

[stan bowles]

Over to you Starmer. Will you reinstate HS2 if you get elected ? No room to sit on the fence now.

 

[HelloCity]

Can Labour just bring it back if they’re voted in?

 

[Semper aggressus]

Whole bloody thing needs scrapping. Far too much wildlife habitat dug up and destroyed already. Better off spending the billions trying to mitigate the climate catastrophe.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Banbury's arguable, perhaps (although twenty miles is actually quite a lot in the smallish country that is England). But the most important town in Oxfordshire is Oxford. And I'm pretty sure that most of its inhabitants (excluding students, of course, who come from all over) don't see themselves as living in the Midlands. So wherever they are, it's not there.

We’re in no-man’s-land here In Banbury.
Oxford in 1/2 hour Birmingham airport in 45mins, Heathrow in 1 hour , family in deepest N. London in 1.1/2 hours- M40 on the doorstep
Not too bad.