Hughes at Stoke

[jay_mcfc]

I didn't want Hughes sacked by City. I wanted him to be given more time.

I was wrong.

His spell at Blackburn was his peak and since then its been all down hill.

he was right for us for where we were when he joined. after the money came in he was on very thin ice. all those draws and some rotten luck made his position untenable. it was a proper upgrade getting bob but we shit on hughes and made us seem crass. we didn't learn and repeated the same mistake with mancini sacking. again we have upgraded again to pelli, lets hope we show this guy a little more patience and respect. he certainly deserves it.

He was never right for us and we should never have got him.

 

[Bill]

I didn't want Hughes sacked by City. I wanted him to be given more time.

I was wrong.

His spell at Blackburn was his peak and since then its been all down hill.

he was right for us for where we were when he joined. after the money came in he was on very thin ice. all those draws and some rotten luck made his position untenable. it was a proper upgrade getting bob but we shit on hughes and made us seem crass. we didn't learn and repeated the same mistake with mancini sacking. again we have upgraded again to pelli, lets hope we show this guy a little more patience and respect. he certainly deserves it.

He was never right for us and we should never have got him.

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[jay_mcfc]

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Easy; he was crap ;)

I can't be bothered going on about Hughes now. It's bad enough Mancini is still talked about so regularly but clueless really isn't worth the bandwidth. Besides, I've tried to erase the moron and his time here from my memory and right now I'm too happy to go over all of that again.

 

[baldybouncer]

I didn't want Hughes sacked by City. I wanted him to be given more time.

I was wrong.

His spell at Blackburn was his peak and since then its been all down hill.

he was right for us for where we were when he joined. after the money came in he was on very thin ice. all those draws and some rotten luck made his position untenable. it was a proper upgrade getting bob but we shit on hughes and made us seem crass. we didn't learn and repeated the same mistake with mancini sacking. again we have upgraded again to pelli, lets hope we show this guy a little more patience and respect. he certainly deserves it.

How was he unlucky?

And please, don't trot out that old chestnut about us shitting on Hughes. He shit on himself because he had no idea how to change a game when it needed changing. For what it's worth I agree that we didn't do ourselves any favours over Bob's sacking.

 

[Ducado]

It's been said before, but it's definitely true: Hughes (and others of his ilk) always seem to come out smelling of roses, regardless of the chaos they leave in their wake. Stoke will go down and Clueless will be sacked - pocketing another windfall. Someone like Leceister will replace them, but after a couple of months of struggling with life in the Premiership, they'll sack Pearson, appoint Clueless and the merry-go-round will begin again.

It's a strange one isn't it

You would think with his CV he would not even get to the interview stage

I can only put it down to there being a very small pool of managers with any experience around

 

[Citizenhill]

Weren't we in the bottom 3 under Hughes at Christmas at one point, or am I imagining that? He was never right for the job, or any job, absolute con man.

 

[Ducado]

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Easy; he was crap ;)

I can't be bothered going on about Hughes now. It's bad enough Mancini is still talked about so regularly but clueless really isn't worth the bandwidth. Besides, I've tried to erase the moron and his time here from my memory and right now I'm too happy to go over all of that again.

Ha, Ha I remember your Anti Hughes rants, to be fair DD & BS were mere amateurs in comparison to you, never have I seen a person so obsessed with hatred for one person

Like Bill said he was the right man at the time but events overtook him

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

People were always bound to draw comparisons with Pulis, unfavourable or otherwise, but I think this weekend he will show a bit more consistency with his predecessor's MO by getting his team to collectively bend over for united.

 

[AustinBlue]

Whether Hughes were capable or not is irrelevant. He didn't have City's best interests at heart. Far too close to the agents bringing in overpriced players. Far too close to Kia. Too many of the players he demanded were from agents in his inner circle - looked very suspiciously like collusion. He played a game against the rest of the City leadership, and they called his bluff.

Having said his capability was irrelevant, Hughes demonstrated very suspect tactics and man management. With the money he was spending on the team, performances like the one against Spurs exposed City for being very easy to take apart, and no plan B once the team went behind.

 

[Bill]

I didn't want Hughes sacked by City. I wanted him to be given more time.

I was wrong.

His spell at Blackburn was his peak and since then its been all down hill.

he was right for us for where we were when he joined. after the money came in he was on very thin ice. all those draws and some rotten luck made his position untenable. it was a proper upgrade getting bob but we shit on hughes and made us seem crass. we didn't learn and repeated the same mistake with mancini sacking. again we have upgraded again to pelli, lets hope we show this guy a little more patience and respect. he certainly deserves it.

How was he unlucky?

And please, don't trot out that old chestnut about us shitting on Hughes. He shit on himself because he had no idea how to change a game when it needed changing. For what it's worth I agree that we didn't do ourselves any favours over Bob's sacking.

on the field of play, what could go wrong did go wrong, rebounds, offsides the lot. that was the best bit about mancini, he was a lucky manager.

 

[jay_mcfc]

It's been said before, but it's definitely true: Hughes (and others of his ilk) always seem to come out smelling of roses, regardless of the chaos they leave in their wake. Stoke will go down and Clueless will be sacked - pocketing another windfall. Someone like Leceister will replace them, but after a couple of months of struggling with life in the Premiership, they'll sack Pearson, appoint Clueless and the merry-go-round will begin again.

This is what happens all over football. You have managers that have it, and the vast majority that don't. They can have all the knowledge, the tactics, good players, good man-management, good training drills etc but it's something more than that to be a top class manager. Something intangible; confidence, arrogance but actually something that is from deep within. You have Ferguson, who has it in spades, Mourinho, Wenger, Mancini, Pelligrini, Hiddink and Benitez but after that they are very few and far between in English football the past couple of decades. Moyes is severely lacking in it and that is why he will never, ever be a success at a club like United. Martinez could develop it, Rogers looks like he actually has an incredible football brain and then you have the guy at Southampton but those three are years behind the others. I like the look of Solskjaer, Laudrup and Sherwood too, but they are based on hunches rather than results.

Other than that they are a bunch of journeymen who will go from one job to the next with their same tired, out dated philosophy's and training methods. They will have limited success, for a time, if they have a bit of luck or inherit/develop decent players but ultimately they are babysitters without power.

 

[Unknown_Genius]

He did well with Wales, and Blackburn. When he joined us, he was being tipped by the media to be a future Yernited, or Chelsea manager. He did alright with Fulham after leaving City, but that's his level really. He doesn't have the tactical nous or man management skills to be a top manager. When he was at QPR he had money to spend, but they actually became worse, despite making lots of signings, and if you wonder if he alienated the dressing room with his scatter gun transfer approach, and not knowing what formation and approach would work best and accommodate the players talents to their fullest.

Hughes is just a second rate manager, at bit like Allardyce, who always seem to find work from chairman wanting a "safe" option. If Stoke sack him, he'll find another job in the Championship.

 

[zandvoort blue]

Hopefully he`s winding up "Super John" to put in a performance this week-end. However for that to happen he has to get on the pitch. I would like to know if Guidetti was a Hughes signing or was it a Coates (chairman) signing?

 

[jay_mcfc]

Ha, Ha I remember your Anti Hughes rants, to be fair DD & BS were mere amateurs in comparison to you, never have I seen a person so obsessed with hatred for one person

Like Bill said he was the right man at the time but events overtook him

And in the name of points scoring.... I TOLD YOU ALL SO!! ;)

PS he was never right for us. 2 years wasted and hundreds of millions down the drain. Still, Ched Evans got to play for a big club!

 

[TGR]

It's not taken Mark Hughes long to make a lasting impression on the Stoke fans...

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Brought Guidetti on with a minute to go whilst chasing the game. Moron.

It couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
I despise Hughes with a passion.
He is a total tw@t.

 

[Sky Blue]

The writing was on the wall after Hull at home one freezing November.

Ended in a 1-1 but we were dire....Jimmy Bullard ran the show.

Thankfully Clueless was gone shortly after. Piss poor manager.

 

[jay_mcfc]

on the field of play, what could go wrong did go wrong, rebounds, offsides the lot. that was the best bit about mancini, he was a lucky manager.

Haha you are such a wum these days. You should ban yourself

 

[Unknown_Genius]

Aside from lacking the good qualities which make a top manager, really the big problem is Hughes suffers from the same problem many British managers do. They're dinosaurs, and have just become outdated. They still play the same regimented, rigid formations and styles from their playing days, and think that if it worked then it will still work now. Their philosophy hasn't changed, and are too stuck in their ways to do anything about it. Managers like that will still get jobs, and will do alright generally, but will never become top managers, and this is why foreign managers are increasing, not just for top teams, but for lower ones, like West Brom, Brighton, and Middlesbrough. Brendan Rodgers is the only British manger who isn't stuck in the past. The media though just blame johnny foreigner for stopping English managers of getting a chance at top clubs, or the sack culture (brought in by foreign owners no less), like when they hammered us for sacking Hughes.

 

[ManCityJordan]

He's just generally shit, him sending Stoke down would be perfection. It would only be beaten by Hughes loosing the play off final the year after.

 

[shevtheblue]

I said on here when guidetti went on loan that this was a stupid deal. He should be at Swansea, or even a west brom type team.