Hughes at Stoke

[jay_mcfc]

It's been said before, but it's definitely true: Hughes (and others of his ilk) always seem to come out smelling of roses, regardless of the chaos they leave in their wake. Stoke will go down and Clueless will be sacked - pocketing another windfall. Someone like Leceister will replace them, but after a couple of months of struggling with life in the Premiership, they'll sack Pearson, appoint Clueless and the merry-go-round will begin again.

This is what happens all over football. You have managers that have it, and the vast majority that don't. They can have all the knowledge, the tactics, good players, good man-management, good training drills etc but it's something more than that to be a top class manager. Something intangible; confidence, arrogance but actually something that is from deep within. You have Ferguson, who has it in spades, Mourinho, Wenger, Mancini, Pelligrini, Hiddink and Benitez but after that they are very few and far between in English football the past couple of decades. Moyes is severely lacking in it and that is why he will never, ever be a success at a club like United. Martinez could develop it, Rogers looks like he actually has an incredible football brain and then you have the guy at Southampton but those three are years behind the others. I like the look of Solskjaer, Laudrup and Sherwood too, but they are based on hunches rather than results.

Other than that they are a bunch of journeymen who will go from one job to the next with their same tired, out dated philosophy's and training methods. They will have limited success, for a time, if they have a bit of luck or inherit/develop decent players but ultimately they are babysitters without power.

 

[Unknown_Genius]

He did well with Wales, and Blackburn. When he joined us, he was being tipped by the media to be a future Yernited, or Chelsea manager. He did alright with Fulham after leaving City, but that's his level really. He doesn't have the tactical nous or man management skills to be a top manager. When he was at QPR he had money to spend, but they actually became worse, despite making lots of signings, and if you wonder if he alienated the dressing room with his scatter gun transfer approach, and not knowing what formation and approach would work best and accommodate the players talents to their fullest.

Hughes is just a second rate manager, at bit like Allardyce, who always seem to find work from chairman wanting a "safe" option. If Stoke sack him, he'll find another job in the Championship.

 

[zandvoort blue]

Hopefully he`s winding up "Super John" to put in a performance this week-end. However for that to happen he has to get on the pitch. I would like to know if Guidetti was a Hughes signing or was it a Coates (chairman) signing?

 

[jay_mcfc]

Ha, Ha I remember your Anti Hughes rants, to be fair DD & BS were mere amateurs in comparison to you, never have I seen a person so obsessed with hatred for one person

Like Bill said he was the right man at the time but events overtook him

And in the name of points scoring.... I TOLD YOU ALL SO!! ;)

PS he was never right for us. 2 years wasted and hundreds of millions down the drain. Still, Ched Evans got to play for a big club!

 

[TGR]

It's not taken Mark Hughes long to make a lasting impression on the Stoke fans...

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Brought Guidetti on with a minute to go whilst chasing the game. Moron.

It couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
I despise Hughes with a passion.
He is a total tw@t.

 

[Sky Blue]

The writing was on the wall after Hull at home one freezing November.

Ended in a 1-1 but we were dire....Jimmy Bullard ran the show.

Thankfully Clueless was gone shortly after. Piss poor manager.

 

[jay_mcfc]

on the field of play, what could go wrong did go wrong, rebounds, offsides the lot. that was the best bit about mancini, he was a lucky manager.

Haha you are such a wum these days. You should ban yourself

 

[Unknown_Genius]

Aside from lacking the good qualities which make a top manager, really the big problem is Hughes suffers from the same problem many British managers do. They're dinosaurs, and have just become outdated. They still play the same regimented, rigid formations and styles from their playing days, and think that if it worked then it will still work now. Their philosophy hasn't changed, and are too stuck in their ways to do anything about it. Managers like that will still get jobs, and will do alright generally, but will never become top managers, and this is why foreign managers are increasing, not just for top teams, but for lower ones, like West Brom, Brighton, and Middlesbrough. Brendan Rodgers is the only British manger who isn't stuck in the past. The media though just blame johnny foreigner for stopping English managers of getting a chance at top clubs, or the sack culture (brought in by foreign owners no less), like when they hammered us for sacking Hughes.

 

[ManCityJordan]

He's just generally shit, him sending Stoke down would be perfection. It would only be beaten by Hughes loosing the play off final the year after.

 

[shevtheblue]

I said on here when guidetti went on loan that this was a stupid deal. He should be at Swansea, or even a west brom type team.