Hughes calls for clarity over Tevez row, MuEN block comments

[mcfc1632]

Well you speak as you find I guess......

I find that when I read the MUEN in general articles at best come across as the negative side of balanced. My opinion (gained from articles over time) is that whenever there is something positive to report it is done so through a journalistic version of 'clenched teeth'..

Now on the other hand this compares to the reporting of anything about the rags with seeming unbridled ecstasy – the journalistic head is way up the MU and in particular baconface arses.

Yes you get rag fans bemoaning the MUEN reporting of united – but it is from a different standpoint of expectation. They have been used to a diet of total sycophancy for so long that anything less than ‘total gushing narrative’ is seen as a disgrace.

When do they ever get ‘on the case’ of anything to do with united – I think that they have been in fear (and seemingly awe) of the club and manager for so long they dare not run the risk of getting slapped – they are not alone to be fair.

Sorry SB you might seek to defend the ‘balance’ – I can even accept that you believe your position –but the paper's total brown-nosing (IMO) of all things united has been a way of life for so long it is systemic throughout the all the paper’s reporting and you and your colleagues probably are not even aware of it any more

The paper is probably no worse than certain national papers but they ought to wise up and realise they are more vulnerable - CITY fans should not whinge but if they feel strongly - vote with their feet, but for me it would be better to serve notice first. We have put up with it for a long time - heh after all we have provided little that would fuel positive reporting- but enough is enough - if you seek to be seen as the voice of Manchester football - then best tighten up your editorial controls.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

"I have never spoken to him - but I have contacted his PR people on this matter - it's called doing yopur job.
Neither Joorabchian nor his people have ever given me a City story."

I must be missing something as those two comments seem contradictory.

Not at all contradictory. I have rung up Joorabchian's PR to ask for their comment and input on the Tevez story, as is my duty.
They have never contacted me to give me a story on anything, and I have never rung them to fish for a story.

Post more.

Oh, I forgot to add, Hughes can't stand Mancini and is bitter he fucked up his only one chance at the big time. His comments are biased and meaningless on most city subjects

This is actually all true, and those who know Hughes personally will vouch for it. I'm not sure if you're been sarcastic or not

For once I'm not being sarcastic. Hughes won the lottery when we were taken over and proved himself incapable of cashing in the golden ticket. He will never get another chance at a top job because he isn't capable

 

[yayas trusty right foot]

Hughes was a disgrace and any chairman thinking of taking on a new manager for there prem club would have been far more impressed with Souness rather than Hughes the wet lettice..

This guy has a massive ego and very limited ability..

Best thing the owners have ever done getting rid of him, although he will be bitter and twisted forever about it..

Get over it Hughes and if you are lucky you might be in the running for the Blackburn job..

 

[JohnMaddocksAxe]

Mark Hughes has very rarely, if ever, utters a single honest word on any subject of significance that has even the remotest link back to him.

In his world view, every word that ever leaves his mouth must be designed to somehow be angled towards painting him in a flattering light - even if it is a tenuous way of doing so with a virtually unrelated link back to the clown.

He is snide, snide, snide, snide, snide (just like he was on the pitch) - in his professional life at least. Perhaps he is a nice bloke in his personal life. But then again, perhaps loads of people are, I'm not interested in any aspect of his personal life.

It is one of the most staggering things in football that he is regarded by some, although it grows fewer by the month, as some sort of honest man of dignity. Even more staggering is that some blues were and are still taken in by it.

I struggle to recall someone in football who has taken this awful characteristic to the nth degree like he does and is not generally regarded as a complete, deluded joke. Maybe Steve Bruce. And in an industry full of arseholes, that is saying something.

 

[mancity1]

Get over it , he is a pundit and is paid for spin now.

Only we could give a man who doesn't warrant a single post such time on a forum light this.

That is unless he is secretly making plans to get his old job back of course (lol).

 

[moomba]

It's all well and good getting comments from Joorabchians PR company, surely the job of the MEN is to critically appraise those comments.

Has there been any of that, or is modern day media simply a means for PR companies to publicise their own points of view on issues?

 

[stuart brennan]

Well you speak as you find I guess......

I find that when I read the MUEN in general articles at best come across as the negative side of balanced. My opinion (gained from articles over time) is that whenever there is something positive to report it is done so through a journalistic version of 'clenched teeth'..

Now on the other hand this compares to the reporting of anything about the rags with seeming unbridled ecstasy – the journalistic head is way up the MU and in particular baconface arses.

Yes you get rag fans bemoaning the MUEN reporting of united – but it is from a different standpoint of expectation. They have been used to a diet of total sycophancy for so long that anything less than ‘total gushing narrative’ is seen as a disgrace.

When do they ever get ‘on the case’ of anything to do with united – I think that they have been in fear (and seemingly awe) of the club and manager for so long they dare not run the risk of getting slapped – they are not alone to be fair.

Sorry SB you might seek to defend the ‘balance’ – I can even accept that you believe your position –but the paper's total brown-nosing (IMO) of all things united has been a way of life for so long it is systemic throughout the all the paper’s reporting and you and your colleagues probably are not even aware of it any more

The paper is probably no worse than certain national papers but they ought to wise up and realise they are more vulnerable - CITY fans should not whinge but if they feel strongly - vote with their feet, but for me it would be better to serve notice first. We have put up with it for a long time - heh after all we have provided little that would fuel positive reporting- but enough is enough - if you seek to be seen as the voice of Manchester football - then best tighten up your editorial controls.

This "brown-nosing of United".
Can you explain, then, why I was blackballed by United, when I was number two to Stuart Mathieson, for writing articles critical of the Glazer takeover - I was given the Football Supporters Federation's Football Writer of the Year award for it, but messed up any relationship I had with United.
United put a lot of pressure on the MEN not to continue that criticism, and Ferguson stopped talking to us partly as a result of that.
If by brown-nosing you mean giving praise where it's due, then we do the same for United and City - that is part of the function of the local paper, to show bias in the face of what is often hostile or indifferent national newspaper coverage.
Perhaps if you feel we do it for City through clenched teeth, it says more about the angle from which you are coming rather than the way I write it, because I can assure you there is nothing clenched-teeth about it.
I enjoy the job, enjoy watching City play, and I like and respect most of the players and other people I come across at City - and when you like and respect people, you are glad for them when they are successful.
I said at the time how chuffed I was for men like Kompany, Zaba, de Jong and others when City won the FA Cup - I was also pleased for City mates (I'm a right soft-arse at heart!)
People seem to think the sports editor Peter Spencer is a Red. He is not. If pushed, he claims Bury are his team, but I can assure you he is definitely not a Utd fan.
Can I also reiterate that we got an email from City thanking us for our coverage of the FA Cup homecoming in May. They didn't think it was through clenched teeth.

 

[mancity1]

It's all well and good getting comments from Joorabchians PR company, surely the job of the MEN is to critically appraise those comments.

Has there been any of that, or is modern day media simply a means for PR companies to publicise their own points of view on issues?

Depends on who owns the company/organisation they write for Moomba and what will sell the most advertising space.

I have no problem with Kia giving his view on things and how accurate or otherwise his view is.

He has to "protect" his clients which usually means saying nothing or saying someone else has miscontrued the situation in words all with the best of intentions.

Whether the MEN point out the failures of such spin or not as it was obvious to all near the scene and all watching that his client didn't want to come on when asked to is not so important in the scheme of things.

What is important is that the club do what is required as a consequence of what Tevez has done or not done as the case may be.

 

[lloydie]

Can you explain this then Stuart?

From today's MUEN (and another thread)

Former Manchester United goalkeeper Alex Stepney, who won the league, FA Cup and European Cup, said: “What a load of rubbish!

“Why should health and safety affect sports? It didn't in my day and it shouldn't do now.

“How can you play with a foam football? Kids will want to play with a proper football. Playing with a proper football never affected us in my day so why should it now?”

And Colin Bell, who won the FA Cup with Manchester City, said: “It seems very strange to me

One of England's greatest players versus an average Goalie, guess who get's the hagiology (or is that canonisation, not sure but you get my point)?

 

[colourmeblue]

but but he's gonna manage Chelsea dontcha know.