Re: goat the legend - Hughes going soon.... [Merged]
Elanos_Right_Boot said:
Not before time. The deafening sound of silence is too much for me to take anyway so hopefully this going to come to a resolution very soon. I have had enough of his rubbish comments after the match and definately sick of him blaming the players. The criminal bit for me is bailing out the FA Cup even more tamely than at Brighton which was already inexcusable. Playing one up front against a woeful Forest team , short on confidence and expecting a hammering, deserves the boot. When will all City fans realise that he is actually; clueless, 'blameless', inept, divisive and a poor judge of backroom support. He had the chance to start from scratch but brings his failed cronies from Blackburn with him. Stop me if i'm wrong but they've won precisely....nothing as a management team.
That appears to be the biggest difference from last year. Our 'star' players have little or no confidence in either his team's coaching methods or leadership. He has nearly £200million of talent yet wants a new team? It's a bad worker who blames his tools and is exactly the way to get a very negative respponse from most of the squad
I've no time for sentiment though and if our players are slacking then some of them can go as well. At the moment though I see the biggest problem as being the management. Hughes came into the club with a clear mandate to instill discipline and keep us in the top half of the league. So far he's failed on both counts. On top of that we are now in a different stratosphere in terms of wealth and expectation. Square peg in a round hole. Should he have more time? For me, no. Unless the Special One is already lined up and waiting till May to take over, but even then that might be contingent on being in the Premiership which is in peril right now. The real trouble though is the fallout; with the fans divided, the players underperforming or worse, future players looking only at success, confidence rapidly disappearing and the press having a field day at our expense. In short, Hughes is now our biggest liability and for that alone he should go.
Being a poor manager, being clueless, having the interpersonal skills of a dung beetle is beside the point; players low on confidence, annoyed, frustrated, underperforming or what-have-you is likewise irrelevant. The whole matter is exactly what you meant when you said, "or worse". I don't agree with you though about our star players having no confidence in him. The only players I have heard mention that have no confidence in him are not on my star players list, but it's all about opinion about who is a star player I suppose. Even if star players (or any player) have no confidence in him, that is no justification for what I called "sedition and wrecking (sabotage)".
Players are free to put in a transfer request and take it from there. Surely Hughes has the same attitude as Tony Adams about players who do not want to "be here". The fact is the Arabs have (so far) endorsed Mark Hughes. It is the Arabs prerogative, not the players, to hire and fire any manager. How can any fan get behind the team or any
player, if that fan thinks poor play is being caused by
deliberate indifference "or worse" the
conscious object is to screw things up? Can you explain Didi's throw against Forrest? Tal Ben Haim's backpass?
I'm going through my mental library of all the
clear fuck ups this season, as well as all the offsides, miss-placed passes, missed tackles, reckless running into midfield, failing to track back, to cover, pointless hoofs upfield, failing to organize and defend corners, rotten corners, woeful free kicks,
all the things that have not gone right, and many things are (I believe) independent of poor tactics, weird formations, substitutions and so on, and I
don't like what I'm thinking.
We all know about game-fixing. We all know about referees being investigated for the same thing. It doesn't take a lot to mess things up, opportunities abound in any game for a player inclined to commit sins of commission, or
omission...and it is the sins of omission which are the hardest to spot, as they tend to be the same kind of thing that can be explained by lack of match fitness, poor concentration, being unlucky, off-the-field issues, moments of madness etc.
Games are often won and lost at the margins. If City are currently a
marginal team, it makes it even harder to spot behaviour which is indifferent, reckless, "or worse". We have lost (or failed to gain) points this season (I guesstimate 12-15, I suppose we could all come up with a number) that I think are attributable to specific errors. Whether these errors were the result of malice, or the natural working out of lady luck, Dame Fortune, low-confidence and stress (stemming from interaction with Hughes or not) I do not know. I'm actually fucking stunned by all this tbh. I don't really want to believe that any player would actually try to screw things up.
