hughes the casualty

[Bigga]

Yeah, I'd move the argument on, if I was you, as well!

The funny thing is, if the MEDIA hadn't have railroaded ADUG with their whole "young British manager" sh*te, I'd probably agree. But, this adventure was the first of its kind into the cauldron of the Prem League for the Saudis and I just feel that ADUG have felt pressured into keeping him. That's MY opinion. I find a similar trend has happened, just lately, of being railroaded by the media cnuts, we have.

crikey yeah, they really don't like to upset the pundits do they, just as well they didnt bid for kaka, what an uproar there would have been!

Your point is immaterial. Here are the facts:

1. Uproar when Thaksin bought the club.
2. Uproar just before Moonik anniversary.
3. Uproar when ADUG came in and they thought Hughes would turfed for their own choice.
4. Uproar when we bid for Kaka.

Not sure of YOUR point, but I KNOW mine. The media gang up and railroad the club and have for quite a while.

 

[Bill]

i think he should have a couple of seasons but he wont get that long, at least though judge him at the end of this, john maddox axe called it right, see how things are in may.if we are up there and have a good spirit then that will do, for now at least.
he does need to kick on after the summer window though.

 

[Bigga]

BS & Bigga shut up!

Neither of you are gonna concede to the other so you're wasting both your times.

I like you both so please stop being nobs with each other and just agree to disagree for fucks sake.

I disagree with BS on a few things footy wise but I also know he wont back down and nor will I so I can either call him a twat 100times a night and say he's wrong or just let it be and not let it get in between 2 blues.

Bigga's has allowed his hatred for Hughes to cloud his judgment. That's just sad...

It's alright. I'll balanced that with your hatred of Elano, yeah...?

 

[pee dubya]

Bigga, I doubt ADUG would let themselves be pressured by the local media into keeping a manager they didn't want, they really don't seem that type. More likely i would say is that Cook has convinced them that Hughes is the man for the job, at least for the short-term.

 

[Bigga]

Bigga, I doubt ADUG would let themselves be pressured by the local media into keeping a manager they didn't want, they really don't seem that type. More likely i would say is that Cook has convinced them that Hughes is the man for the job, at least for the short-term.

I understand your point, but with Cook probably fearing the media backlash, I think he's convinced ADUG of what a bad move it would be to remove him, being the new Big Fish in town, that's all. After all, Cook is Hughes' mouth piece to their ear really, isn't he?

That's what I think. They wouldn't have heard of Hughes, but they would have heard of Mourinho (and I'm no fan, trust me!), for example.

 

[Anonymous]

The funny thing is, if the MEDIA hadn't have railroaded ADUG with their whole "young British manager" sh*te, I'd probably agree. But, this adventure was the first of its kind into the cauldron of the Prem League for the Saudis and I just feel that ADUG have felt pressured into keeping him. That's MY opinion. I find a similar trend has happened, just lately, of being railroaded by the media cnuts, we have.

I'll give the billionaire business men who own our club a little more credit than that thank you very much.

As such, ADUG have persisted to say Hughes is backed, the players, as well. In fact, the club ( and to some extent the fans) have developed a siege mentality, at the moment. I don't think it will matter on the results if big names continue to avoid us, Hughes will be the casualty and THAT is FAR more a possibility than Hughes continuing run the club.

I'd rather have owners who decided a manager's future based on his results over a season or two, than have owners who decide a managers future based on his big name pulling power...

Again, such a blinkered and myopic view...which gives absolutely no credit to our owners, to Gary Cook, or to Mark Hughes...

Your prejudice seems to precede you wherever you post...

 

[bizzbo]

crikey yeah, they really don't like to upset the pundits do they, just as well they didnt bid for kaka, what an uproar there would have been!

Your point is immaterial. Here are the facts:

1. Uproar when Thaksin bought the club.
2. Uproar just before Moonik anniversary.
3. Uproar when ADUG came in and they thought Hughes would turfed for their own choice.
4. Uproar when we bid for Kaka.

Not sure of YOUR point, but I KNOW mine. The media gang up and railroad the club and have for quite a while.

umm the point is material in the extreme. you are saying that the media are railroading our current owners. if they were so sensitive to provoking 'uproar' why make the bid for kaka? do you really think they didnt realise what the reaction would be?

 

[Bigga]

The funny thing is, if the MEDIA hadn't have railroaded ADUG with their whole "young British manager" sh*te, I'd probably agree. But, this adventure was the first of its kind into the cauldron of the Prem League for the Saudis and I just feel that ADUG have felt pressured into keeping him. That's MY opinion. I find a similar trend has happened, just lately, of being railroaded by the media cnuts, we have.

I'll give the billionaire business men who own our club a little more credit than that thank you very much.

As such, ADUG have persisted to say Hughes is backed, the players, as well. In fact, the club ( and to some extent the fans) have developed a siege mentality, at the moment. I don't think it will matter on the results if big names continue to avoid us, Hughes will be the casualty and THAT is FAR more a possibility than Hughes continuing run the club.

I'd rather have owners who decided a manager's future based on his results over a season or two, than have owners who decide a managers future based on his big name pulling power...

Again, such a blinkered and myopic view...which gives absolutely no credit to our owners, to Gary Cook, or to Mark Hughes...

Your prejudice seems to precede you wherever you post...

PMSL!!! "blinkered and myopic"!!

Ok, AGAIN I'll use your point against you...

ADUG are a group of billionaire(I'll say it again) BILLIONAIRE businessmen who have decided to give a manager who has won nothing in the game, yes NOTHING, complete faith as their first choice in management to run a potentially world wide football club.

How on EARTH did these men become rich?? I'll tell you what, he's NOT their preferred choice, BUT they FEEL they have to give him a chance. And if you think the media haven't helped in giving Hughes that chance, also, then you're a bigger fool than I thought.

You need to ask yourself why Hughes had to go on the defensive through the media, not long ago. Between them and Cook, ADUG probably don't know what to believe about the goings on at the club.

A manager completely safe in his chair, wouldn't feel the need for such an offensive, would he?

 

[bizzbo]

go away and do something else for a while

 

[BobKowalski]

The day ADUG took over they had two immediate options with the managers position. Sack him and cop the flak for 'sacking the best young potential manager in Britain' not to mention having to recruit a manager to replace him or back him 100% for the rest of the season and judge teh situation in the calm of summer. ADUG were pragmatic enough to see backing hughes was a no brainer after all relegation for a squad that finished 9th was unlikely especially if you add (so far) 100 mill of talent to it.

ADUG are also pragmatic enough to know that if they do land any additional superstars either now (looking unlikely despite best efforts so far) or the summer they will have to accept that these players will want CL football and success fast - something they also want and no I don't buy the notion that ADUG will be patient and take little steps and grow it slowly. The pursuit of Kaka showed their true intent as did the guy initially who shouted from the rooftops that they were going to take over the world. A deliberate ploy (again imo) to shake things up which along with the Robinho signing worked. ADUG may have quietened it down but the intent is there and its real.

Accepting all this and that CL football is a must next year (again I think the 2 years is just smoke and is just a 'bare minimum' senario) ADUG need a manager who will all but guarantee this will happen and show the superstars we do mean business. Hughes is no where near able to gurantee the owners CL football in two years let alone one year. He does not have the CV, the experience or (imo) the ability or temperament to take a team into the top 4 within the timeframe.

I can accept that Hughes is trying to change the culture however imposing rules on diet or improving physical fitness makes for me a good dietician or fitness coach. The man management skills and leadership qualities plus the ability to inspire the players and staff indeed the club as a whole are simply not there and never will be. Neither is the tactical acumen and there is no way any of the top 4 clubs will take us seriously as a threat until we are serious about the manager.

This is not about 'anti' or 'pro' Hughes. ADUG are not anti or pro Hughes. They just want the best man in the job just as they want the best players. Hughes chances of being that man were slim to begin with but they are way beyond zero now irrespective of what happens for the rest of the season.