I hate this government

[law74]

If only it was so easy yet my 24 years of pension would be up the swanny but that's ok to change my contract at such a mate date isn't it and make me pay more and work longer I'm sure if your mortgage company did the same you'd love it, excuse me Mr Uwe we miscalculated we need you to pay your mortgage for another 8 years and the intrest rate is going up 4% oh and at the end your house will be worth a hell of a lot less.

Feel for you mate, had the same problem working for a Gov Dept. After 33 years getting ripped off, the last 6/7 years with either no pay rise or 1% rise while my pension conts were going up to eat up any pay rise I was lucky enough to get. I managed to get a package.

I'm well out of it.

Forca the Firemen.

Whop de do.

I work for DHL. I haven't had a pay rise in 7 years except for 1% last year. In that time I've lost loads of stuff like free Bupa, paid sick pay reduced, yearly bonus etc etc.

Just because you work for the government it doesn't mean you are the only ones being put under the cosh. Is it worth striking for? Nope, as the outcome is the same. If there's no pot to piss in then there's no pot to piss in.

The pensions and add ons were worked out and given to people when no one gave a thought to the future. Now companies/ governments are bricking it and trying to reign in their costs.

What can you do? Public sympathy for your cause is stretched a bit as they are all in the same boat. Most people I know haven't had a pay rise in years, or at least a decent one.

So you strike.

For fuck all.

All in this together eh?

And another that has swallowed the Tory right wing bullshit of the country being skint.
There is plenty of money in the country just the Tory scum choose not to try and collect a lot of it as it would reduce the donations to party funds

 

[BimboBob]

Feel for you mate, had the same problem working for a Gov Dept. After 33 years getting ripped off, the last 6/7 years with either no pay rise or 1% rise while my pension conts were going up to eat up any pay rise I was lucky enough to get. I managed to get a package.

I'm well out of it.

Forca the Firemen.

Whop de do.

I work for DHL. I haven't had a pay rise in 7 years except for 1% last year. In that time I've lost loads of stuff like free Bupa, paid sick pay reduced, yearly bonus etc etc.

Just because you work for the government it doesn't mean you are the only ones being put under the cosh. Is it worth striking for? Nope, as the outcome is the same. If there's no pot to piss in then there's no pot to piss in.

The pensions and add ons were worked out and given to people when no one gave a thought to the future. Now companies/ governments are bricking it and trying to reign in their costs.

What can you do? Public sympathy for your cause is stretched a bit as they are all in the same boat. Most people I know haven't had a pay rise in years, or at least a decent one.

So you strike.

For fuck all.

All in this together eh?

And another that has swallowed the Tory right wing bullshit of the country being skint.
There is plenty of money in the country just the Tory scum choose not to try and collect a lot of it as it would reduce the donations to party funds

Right on sister. Right on.

 

[mackenzie]

If only it was so easy yet my 24 years of pension would be up the swanny but that's ok to change my contract at such a mate date isn't it and make me pay more and work longer I'm sure if your mortgage company did the same you'd love it, excuse me Mr Uwe we miscalculated we need you to pay your mortgage for another 8 years and the intrest rate is going up 4% oh and at the end your house will be worth a hell of a lot less.

Feel for you mate, had the same problem working for a Gov Dept. After 33 years getting ripped off, the last 6/7 years with either no pay rise or 1% rise while my pension conts were going up to eat up any pay rise I was lucky enough to get. I managed to get a package.

I'm well out of it.

Forca the Firemen.

Whop de do.

I work for DHL. I haven't had a pay rise in 7 years except for 1% last year. In that time I've lost loads of stuff like free Bupa, paid sick pay reduced, yearly bonus etc etc.

Just because you work for the government it doesn't mean you are the only ones being put under the cosh. Is it worth striking for? Nope, as the outcome is the same. If there's no pot to piss in then there's no pot to piss in.

The pensions and add ons were worked out and given to people when no one gave a thought to the future. Now companies/ governments are bricking it and trying to reign in their costs.

What can you do? Public sympathy for your cause is stretched a bit as they are all in the same boat. Most people I know haven't had a pay rise in years, or at least a decent one.

So you strike.

For fuck all.

All in this together eh?

It's a bit bleeding rich though when you have worked in the Public Sector for over 30 years and have accepted the shite salary for that time (25k a year at the moment) on the condition that the pension will be healthy as compensation, If they can now move the goalposts.
Tell you what, let's review that shite salary I had for 33 years and give me some back pay.

Good luck with the fight Blue Maverick, I understand how you feel and wish you success.

 

[union city blue]

If only it was so easy yet my 24 years of pension would be up the swanny but that's ok to change my contract at such a mate date isn't it and make me pay more and work longer I'm sure if your mortgage company did the same you'd love it, excuse me Mr Uwe we miscalculated we need you to pay your mortgage for another 8 years and the intrest rate is going up 4% oh and at the end your house will be worth a hell of a lot less.

Feel for you mate, had the same problem working for a Gov Dept. After 33 years getting ripped off, the last 6/7 years with either no pay rise or 1% rise while my pension conts were going up to eat up any pay rise I was lucky enough to get. I managed to get a package.

I'm well out of it.

Forca the Firemen.

Whop de do.

I work for DHL. I haven't had a pay rise in 7 years except for 1% last year. In that time I've lost loads of stuff like free Bupa, paid sick pay reduced, yearly bonus etc etc.

Just because you work for the government it doesn't mean you are the only ones being put under the cosh. Is it worth striking for? Nope, as the outcome is the same. If there's no pot to piss in then there's no pot to piss in.

The pensions and add ons were worked out and given to people when no one gave a thought to the future. Now companies/ governments are bricking it and trying to reign in their costs.

What can you do? Public sympathy for your cause is stretched a bit as they are all in the same boat. Most people I know haven't had a pay rise in years, or at least a decent one.

So you strike.

For fuck all.

All in this together eh?

Have you noticed it's always the ones who haven't got the balls to stand collectively with their fellow workers to try to improve their lot or, in this case, retain what they were originally promised under the terms of their contracts, who are the biggest critics of those who do want to stand up for themselves.

 

[Rascal]

As people may/may not know I'm a firefighter and we have been taking industrial action over our pensions etc the new fire minister had promised and agreed with many of our points and for the last 3 months we have he called off industrial action to have what we believed constructive talks, where she would eventually come back with revised proposals. Over this period of time there have been many big things going on such as the NATO summit in September which if we had been on strike would have affected it. Fiy she met with our executive council for crunch talks yesterday and the final outcome absolutely nothing has changed the proposals from the last 17 months stands, no revisions absolutely fuck all.
Well that's the final straw, I can guarantee now the gloves are off and don't be surprised strikes over the bonfire period, you make not like that but at our busiest time lets see how the country copes with a vastly reduced fire service, this government is taking the piss out of all good honest tax paying people and they can now stick it up their arse I'm done with been nice.

100% support from me.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Feel for you mate, had the same problem working for a Gov Dept. After 33 years getting ripped off, the last 6/7 years with either no pay rise or 1% rise while my pension conts were going up to eat up any pay rise I was lucky enough to get. I managed to get a package.

I'm well out of it.

Forca the Firemen.

Whop de do.

I work for DHL. I haven't had a pay rise in 7 years except for 1% last year. In that time I've lost loads of stuff like free Bupa, paid sick pay reduced, yearly bonus etc etc.

Just because you work for the government it doesn't mean you are the only ones being put under the cosh. Is it worth striking for? Nope, as the outcome is the same. If there's no pot to piss in then there's no pot to piss in.

The pensions and add ons were worked out and given to people when no one gave a thought to the future. Now companies/ governments are bricking it and trying to reign in their costs.

What can you do? Public sympathy for your cause is stretched a bit as they are all in the same boat. Most people I know haven't had a pay rise in years, or at least a decent one.

So you strike.

For fuck all.

All in this together eh?

And another that has swallowed the Tory right wing bullshit of the country being skint.
There is plenty of money in the country just the Tory scum choose not to try and collect a lot of it as it would reduce the donations to party funds

Making the rich poor has never made the poor rich.
Jocular, I know but I'm afraid it's not only 'Tory scum' who fail to get any wedge off Vodafone and Starbucks, (this is usually the response to where nirvana can be obtained, with goodies for all). But we can try taxing these rich cunts at 97% again to assuage the hysteria of the more strident class warrior,after all it never did any harm in the past.
I'd love to pay the Firemen their due, they deserve it, as do those struggling midwives, but unfortunately shit happens, remember endowment mortgages? Promised the fucking world they did, pay off your loan with a good drink at the end of it.
Ah well.

 

[blueish swede]

I work for DHL. I haven't had a pay rise in 7 years except for 1% last year. In that time I've lost loads of stuff like free Bupa, paid sick pay reduced, yearly bonus etc etc.

I don't mean to attack you at all but your post highlights one of the major problems employees face today. Ove the same period DHL have been paying out dividends on shares.

http://www.dpdhl.com/en/investors/shares/dividend.html

It should be the investors who are take the risk not the employees. It is a fundamental characteristic of invesments that they carry a risk. An employment contract should not have the same associated risk. If the business is not profitable enough to cover (at least cost of living) pay increases and dividends then they should pay the staff and not the shareholdes.

The affluent are buliding the idea that loss should be paid for by the poor into the system more and more. From where I am it looks like Britain is heading back to the Victorian era with a poor underclass reliant on the benevloence of the wealthy few.

 

[BimboBob]

Feel for you mate, had the same problem working for a Gov Dept. After 33 years getting ripped off, the last 6/7 years with either no pay rise or 1% rise while my pension conts were going up to eat up any pay rise I was lucky enough to get. I managed to get a package.

I'm well out of it.

Forca the Firemen.

Whop de do.

I work for DHL. I haven't had a pay rise in 7 years except for 1% last year. In that time I've lost loads of stuff like free Bupa, paid sick pay reduced, yearly bonus etc etc.

Just because you work for the government it doesn't mean you are the only ones being put under the cosh. Is it worth striking for? Nope, as the outcome is the same. If there's no pot to piss in then there's no pot to piss in.

The pensions and add ons were worked out and given to people when no one gave a thought to the future. Now companies/ governments are bricking it and trying to reign in their costs.

What can you do? Public sympathy for your cause is stretched a bit as they are all in the same boat. Most people I know haven't had a pay rise in years, or at least a decent one.

So you strike.

For fuck all.

All in this together eh?

It's a bit bleeding rich though when you have worked in the Public Sector for over 30 years and have accepted the shite salary for that time (25k a year at the moment) on the condition that the pension will be healthy as compensation, If they can now move the goalposts.
Tell you what, let's review that shite salary I had for 33 years and give me some back pay.

My full time warehouse workers don't earn 25k a year. Hell, some of my Managers don't even earn that and they don't get a lovely pension to compensate. They also don't have a Monday - Friday 8-5 job but work shifts, weekends and a lot of them have 1 day off in the week and 1 at the weekend.

Everyone who works in the Public Sector must have a lovely rosey view of life if they think that they get paid less than the private sector.

I'd be having a look at all those lovely council chief executives with their 90k plus pay and their index linked pensions if I were you. (There's 10 of them in Manchester alone). Or the severence packages that are given out to all and sundry.

We have cut costs considerably so that we can compete in the market we are in. We can't cut wages but we can amend packages. The same as in your world.

 

[Blue Maverick]

This is not about pay but pensions and the fact that if we are injured we can lose upto 50% off our pension if we can't do our job! whether in the line of service or not. The governments own report said we should not work past 55 but they've ignored it and set an age of 60. I know it's not just us who are been shafted but I can only fight my corner, we were recommended not to strike by our chief officers and negotiate which we did and it's got us nowhere they've just strung us along, I wonder if those chiefs will now come out in support? I won't hold my breath.

 

[mackenzie]

Whop de do.

I work for DHL. I haven't had a pay rise in 7 years except for 1% last year. In that time I've lost loads of stuff like free Bupa, paid sick pay reduced, yearly bonus etc etc.

Just because you work for the government it doesn't mean you are the only ones being put under the cosh. Is it worth striking for? Nope, as the outcome is the same. If there's no pot to piss in then there's no pot to piss in.

The pensions and add ons were worked out and given to people when no one gave a thought to the future. Now companies/ governments are bricking it and trying to reign in their costs.

What can you do? Public sympathy for your cause is stretched a bit as they are all in the same boat. Most people I know haven't had a pay rise in years, or at least a decent one.

So you strike.

For fuck all.

All in this together eh?

It's a bit bleeding rich though when you have worked in the Public Sector for over 30 years and have accepted the shite salary for that time (25k a year at the moment) on the condition that the pension will be healthy as compensation, If they can now move the goalposts.
Tell you what, let's review that shite salary I had for 33 years and give me some back pay.

My full time warehouse workers don't earn 25k a year. Hell, some of my Managers don't even earn that and they don't get a lovely pension to compensate. They also don't have a Monday - Friday 8-5 job but work shifts, weekends and a lot of them have 1 day off in the week and 1 at the weekend.

Everyone who works in the Public Sector must have a lovely rosey view of life if they think that they get paid less than the private sector.

I'd be having a look at all those lovely council chief executives with their 90k plus pay and their index linked pensions if I were you. (There's 10 of them in Manchester alone). Or the severence packages that are given out to all and sundry.

We have cut costs considerably so that we can compete in the market we are in. We can't cut wages but we can amend packages. The same as in your world.

I'd be having a look at the post above yours if I was you.