I miss Hughes

[Project]

Well, his win/loss record would argue with you there.

as i see it we always looked liked scoring with hughes in charge, bob has no clue what the word attack means, as i said in an earlier thread he should get advice from brian kidd, work with him and find the right balance, do that and there may be no need for jose after all.

Under Hughes

17 played
29 points (1.7 per game)
33 goals (1.94)
27 conceded (1.58)

Under Mancini

7 played
15 points (2.14)
14 goals (2.0)
5 conceded (0.7)


It's only 7 games but every one of your points (we dont score, Mancini doesnt know how to attack, Hughes would fare better) don't bear out when you look at the facts

 

[Damocles]

as i see it we always looked liked scoring with hughes in charge, bob has no clue what the word attack means, as i said in an earlier thread he should get advice from brian kidd, work with him and find the right balance, do that and there may be no need for jose after all.

Under Hughes

17 played
29 points (1.7 per game)
33 goals (1.94)
27 conceded (1.58)

Under Mancini

7 played
15 points (2.14)
14 goals (2.0)
5 conceded (0.7)


It's only 7 games but every one of your points (we dont score, Mancini doesnt know how to attack, Hughes would fare better) don't bear out when you look at the facts

FUCKING HELL.

This needs bumping so that everybody may read this.

 

[Anonymous]

We're not winning palying well, we're limping over the line against the bottom of the table sides, were making our own problems before the opposition are even factored into the equation. Add into that, that football is an entertainment and with our wealth, i don't think its too unreasonable to ask for a few sparks of entertaining play.

Listen to manager when Hughes was in charge, they were begining to fear City and our attacking prowess... our schoolboy set up in defence let us down and his unwillingness to address it let us down. Mancini came in, sorted out the defence and we dicked WOlves and Bburn straight away... why do we now have to go into or shells? At 1-0 we should be looking at 3 or 4 before we shut up shop, 1-0 isnt the place to be slowing down and other than Mourinho and Geroge Graham not many managers in England succeed down that route.

The Pl is getting more and more competative meaning teams will create and score more, we can't hope to nick a goal and shut up shop... we wont get top4 that way.

Wouldn't you say it's a little early to be judging how attacking Mancini's team will be in the long term. We've had a constantly revolving forward line, and a constantly revolving back 4 since late December...and have played a hell of a lot of games in that time. Makes sense that organization would be the key word throughout that period...

I expect the football will evolve as the weeks go by...

 

[SalfordCityBlue]

You are forgetting to factor in the rose tinted Hughes glasses. Include those and Hughes has the edge in every department.

 

[GStar]

We're not winning palying well, we're limping over the line against the bottom of the table sides, were making our own problems before the opposition are even factored into the equation. Add into that, that football is an entertainment and with our wealth, i don't think its too unreasonable to ask for a few sparks of entertaining play.

Listen to manager when Hughes was in charge, they were begining to fear City and our attacking prowess... our schoolboy set up in defence let us down and his unwillingness to address it let us down. Mancini came in, sorted out the defence and we dicked WOlves and Bburn straight away... why do we now have to go into or shells? At 1-0 we should be looking at 3 or 4 before we shut up shop, 1-0 isnt the place to be slowing down and other than Mourinho and Geroge Graham not many managers in England succeed down that route.

The Pl is getting more and more competative meaning teams will create and score more, we can't hope to nick a goal and shut up shop... we wont get top4 that way.

Wouldn't you say it's a little early to be judging how attacking Mancini's team will be in the long term. We've had a constantly revolving forward line, and a constantly revolving back 4 since late December...and have played a hell of a lot of games in that time. Makes sense that organization would be the key word throughout that period...

I expect the football will evolve as the weeks go by...

Yep i deffiantely would... i'm not judging, just asking questions.

What sticks in my mind mind, is that Mancini made it very clear in his first few interviews "You don't win football matches if you don't attack". I guess thats why i'm surprised he didn't finish by saying, "...but for now my philosophy is you don't lose games if you don't conceed."

I can only speak for myself, but i'd suggst that some of us are frustrated we're playing overly defensive, especially when we've seen what our attacking line is capable of.

 

[Project]

Also when Mancini took over we were 4 points behind Spurs and 6 points behind Villa (with a game in hand on each).

I'm not saying we wouldn't have taken as many points under Hughes... just pointing to the fact that Mancini has come in and improved the goals and points ratio, radically improved the defence and not just made up ground on our competitors but overtaken them with 2 games to spare. All whilst playing "shit", "ultra defensive" football that apparently doesn't work in the Premier League.

We really are a bunch of fussy bastards if we aren't happy with that.

 

[bluefandk]

as i see it we always looked liked scoring with hughes in charge, bob has no clue what the word attack means, as i said in an earlier thread he should get advice from brian kidd, work with him and find the right balance, do that and there may be no need for jose after all.

Under Hughes

17 played
29 points (1.7 per game)
33 goals (1.94)
27 conceded (1.58)

Under Mancini

7 played
15 points (2.14)
14 goals (2.0)
5 conceded (0.7)


It's only 7 games but every one of your points (we dont score, Mancini doesnt know how to attack, Hughes would fare better) don't bear out when you look at the facts

well once you get the facts presented to you, instead of listening to the hughes lovers, its quite clear who the better maneger is.

I find it quite unbelieveble, that the people who demanded, that nobody judge Hughes until after his third season ,are now hurling abuse at our new maneger less than 2 months in.

I still think Mancini might be the right guy, he needs to improve though.

 

[bornblueegg]

Also when Mancini took over we were 4 points behind Spurs and 6 points behind Villa (with a game in hand on each).

I'm not saying we wouldn't have taken as many points under Hughes... just pointing to the fact that Mancini has come in and improved the goals and points ratio, radically improved the defence and not just made up ground on our competitors but overtaken them with 2 games to spare. All whilst playing "shit", "ultra defensive" football that apparently doesn't work in the Premier League.

We really are a bunch of fussy bastards if we aren't happy with that.

I agree, but think this is more because they have lost ground then us making it up.

I don't miss MH (anymore) I was disappointed but given his very stylish replacement, I'm happy



....ish

 

[Anonymous]

Wouldn't you say it's a little early to be judging how attacking Mancini's team will be in the long term. We've had a constantly revolving forward line, and a constantly revolving back 4 since late December...and have played a hell of a lot of games in that time. Makes sense that organization would be the key word throughout that period...

I expect the football will evolve as the weeks go by...

Yep i deffiantely would... i'm not judging, just asking questions.

What sticks in my mind mind, is that Mancini made it very clear in his first few interviews "You don't win football matches if you don't attack". I guess thats why i'm surprised he didn't finish by saying, "...but for now my philosophy is you don't lose games if you don't conceed."

I can only speak for myself, but i'd suggst that some of us are frustrated we're playing overly defensive, especially when we've seen what our attacking line is capable of.

I think it's about happy mediums. It will take Mancini some time to find the right balance between attack and defense, and until he finds it, I'm happy for our base to be a defensive one.

We have some big big games coming up, and we'll know a lot more about where we are at the end of that run...Bobby v Rafa and Bobby v Carlo will shape the rest of our season.

 

[Skip Donoghue]

I've said this before but I think something happened that left the club little choice but to sack Hughes. Otherwise they might well have kept him to the end of the season.

i think your right and these are my thoughts on this, mourinho (to city) and mancini (back to inter) will swap clubs in the summer and maybe hughes got wind of mourinhos summer arrival!