HamannCheese
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What made her even consider visiting Croke Park by the way? It's just insane.
mrt4919 said:tolmie said:can maggie thatcher go over with her to !!!
King Billy and Oliver Cromwell with an escort of Black and Tan's are due to arrive the day before.
Wardie said:As a English fella living in Ireland for the last ten years I don't think she should come, it'sjust stirring up the past. Going to croke park is a disgrace.
People must understand the royals and that class of people are the nemesis of the Irish. Rich plummy voiced land owners persecuting the natives pushing them into poverty and despair for years and years. Forcing thousands to emigrate and many to starve etc.
Just in regard to the people not knowing the history this is fairly common in England I certainly wasn't taught in school, They are not doing it to annoy the Irish it's genuinely the truth.
And though I do believe the England as a nation sometimes need a push towards looking at the darker details of our past. I also think the Irish should appreciate that a lot of English also carry the same feeling towards the upper classes, and as we shouldn't stereotype either should they. We are not all died in the wool unionists.
If she does come which I'm sure she will. I hope it passes of peacefully but irelands in a funny spot at the moment the country is broke, and people have genuine grievances about life in general and it only takes one nut job to cause maximum damage.
If she came during the boom I dont think anyone would have batted an eyelid, probably would have been delighted to show her how far the country had come since the Brits f@@ked off, but it's changed alot now and the old grievences are coming to the forefront.
Ireland is at a bit of a crossroads now the next few years