I Will take on the Hughes Out Brigade

bluemoon1078 said:
moomba said:
bluemoon1078 said:
The boo hoo we rich so we should win everything attitude makes me shit! Success will come under Hughes of this i have no doubt!

It's spoken about lots, but I rarely see or read anyone who expects that we should win anything at this stage of our development.


It on every maychday thread "we should be beating this lot" etc etc

As I said previous if that was the case there would b no hughes out threads! We are where this group of players deserves to be
 
bluemoon1078 said:
moomba said:
bluemoon1078 said:
The boo hoo we rich so we should win everything attitude makes me shit! Success will come under Hughes of this i have no doubt!

It's spoken about lots, but I rarely see or read anyone who expects that we should win anything at this stage of our development.


It on every maychday thread "we should be beating this lot" etc etc

If you read the many threads on Hamburg you'll notice that many of the fans who think we should be beating them are very pro-Hughes.
 
Thanks cheesy ur one hell of a guy! ( T***) :-)

look back a bit (the post agreed? agreed? etc.) can we agree on those points?
 
The Cyber Goat said:
Thanks cheesy ur one hell of a guy! ( T***) :-)

look back a bit (the post agreed? agreed? etc.) can we agree on those points?

:-)

I've answered that one mate. And I do agree with you.
 
On the assumption that we lose on Thursday (though you never know) it would be the easy (some might say right) option to sack Hughes. I hope they keep with him though that is said increasingly more in hope.
 
The Cyber Goat said:
It's my turn to rant to here goes:

This club has been shite for as long as I can remember, but lets start at the dark dark days, Relegation to the 3rd division. Thats where we start, that is the level we were at .. the club is in turmoil, financially fucked, 127 managers in a week, then things turn round, David Bernstein turns the club around and we get 2 promotions in succession with Joe Royle back to back without spending much cash. The rapid progression means we are not good enough to stay in the top league and we are again relegated.

Bring on King Kev! He takes the club back up great season loads of goals - the new messiah! But Kevin has a problem, like my missis he is shite with money, he has to spend spend spend, he and Mr. Bernstein fall out over a washed up scouser ( who proved to be right there Kev??) Hey presto John Wardle usups Bernsrein and city go on to throw good money after bad on shite players until the money runs out and keegan does his harry hudini trick and fucks off!

So now we are a yo yo club, staving off relegation with an untested manager called Stuart Pearce, who doesn't have much off a clue really but, he has inherited a poor squad and just 6 million quid to spend, does he improve the squad with 2-3 good professionals to help our blossoming youth system? Does he fuck he blows the lot on a never seen before Greek waiter! Season is a wash out we just avoid relegation he gets sacked!

Now it starts to get interesting .. Wardle sells to Satan himself ( although he wasn't that bad when interested in Liverpool!) We get Sven shagalot as manager and still have a squad that is utter crap and just avoided relegation. Lets look at the improvements shagalot makes to that squad ...

Garrido - the snail - shite
Bianchi - wears a fuckin muffler - sent back delivering Pizza
Geovani - been found out by Phil Brown now - shite
Fernandes - Anybody seen my head? - shite
Martin Petrov - ok he isn't that bad
Corluka - good player but a bit slow for the premier league - sold
Bojinov - translates as Bolsa Wood - never played more than 30 mins
Benjani - plays well 1 in 6 - shi... well he isn't bad but not good by any stretch
Caicedo - Stick to boxing you old fucker, 21 my arse! - shite
Elano - has to be taken off because gary speed said BOO! - SHITE

We have a miraculous start to the season then at christmas the wheels fall off and we are no better after christmas than under Pearce the season before, we play negative football never try to beat any of the top teams, are considered a push over by smaller clubs and end up getting tonked 8-1 by Gareth - can't take a penalty - Southgate! This one result is an indication of the mental strength and attitude of our squad and if any of them had ANY pride for this club they would see to put it right only one player has done that (You all know who he is) the rest can fuck off for me!

Now my point (hurray you cry!!) You cannot undo all these years of shite built on shite, built on .... and turn it around in 10 minutes forget the money it means nothing to the players here already the earn mega bucks they don't give a fuck about me, you or the club! The signings Mark Hughes has made have been our best players this season - listen to what Ireland, our best and most consistent performer says about his boss - not what a FRINGE player says because he isn't sweating blood for you is he? no he wants shagalot back so he can have it easy.

It takes a season to find out what the players are about. Rumors are 16 will go in the summer the more the better for me! We are not a top 6 team! List our players then the top 6 teams and tell me how many get into them teams not fuckin many will so are we under achieving? No actually we are where we deserve to be! People talk about players being 'world class' because they make a pass or win a header! What the fuck do you know about world class players you have watched Vassell for 5 seasons for fucks sake get real!!

Go ask Blackburn fans on their forums about Hughes, you won't get a bad word said, they didn't concede goals from ever corner/cross/free kick did they? Same manager, same coaches, same methods DIFFERENT PLAYERS WHO AREN'T ARSED!!! that's the difference so stop your whining!

Even if you don't like his methods/tactics/formations or the real reason (he played for united) this club needs to get rid of all the shite that has been accumulating over the years and a new manager won't know what's what for another season so let him sort it out! If we are no better this time next year he will be on his bike because of the amounts of money he will have spent, but i'm confident he will get it right, unlike our players who have never been won anything he has won things all his life and it's that mentality that I like, it's ingrained into winners and Mark Hughes has it remember how much we hated him when he played against us .. that's because he played to WIN got go close to winning actually WIN and you have to respect a man like that not some overpaid primma-donna who plays to look good or get a big contract(Insert players name here!)

Anyway RANT over, stability is the key you cannot undo years of mismanagement in 8 months and all seasoncard holders you have had more value for money this season than any other in the TOP DIVISION than any other in recent years .. Bring on the Hughes out brigade .. Round 1,420,544 Ding Ding ;-)

F*CKIN HELL here we go again lots of hot air and no substance what so ever. No FACTUAL evidense of whay we should keep Hughes. The only valid point made is that Blackburn fans will back you up and say Hughes is great and why? Simple because Hughes over achieved at a club with average/poor permiership playerss.

Son your arguement is a crock of shite and based more on opinion and hearsay than factual evidense. Bringing up that old chestnut about stability thats something you do when you have a manager who's earned the rights to it. My advice is get back to your homework son and stop p***ing about on internet forums. Run along now your mams got your tea on its fish fingers and chips
 
Cheesy said:
The Cyber Goat said:
Thanks cheesy ur one hell of a guy! ( T***) :-)

look back a bit (the post agreed? agreed? etc.) can we agree on those points?

:-)

I've answered that one mate. And I do agree with you.

Good, i feel the we have found common ground then, whoever comes in to replace hughes will not be sucessfull with this shower we have at the moment! So we have to buy new and the new manager will take time to decide who to go and who to stay ( prob a season?) why not let mark hughes stay another year as his signings so far have been good? sacking him at the end of the season will only set us back another year, if it doesn't work out surely the incoming manager will inherit a better squad then than now!
 
Mike D said:
The Cyber Goat said:
It's my turn to rant to here goes:

This club has been shite for as long as I can remember, but lets start at the dark dark days, Relegation to the 3rd division. Thats where we start, that is the level we were at .. the club is in turmoil, financially fucked, 127 managers in a week, then things turn round, David Bernstein turns the club around and we get 2 promotions in succession with Joe Royle back to back without spending much cash. The rapid progression means we are not good enough to stay in the top league and we are again relegated.

Bring on King Kev! He takes the club back up great season loads of goals - the new messiah! But Kevin has a problem, like my missis he is shite with money, he has to spend spend spend, he and Mr. Bernstein fall out over a washed up scouser ( who proved to be right there Kev??) Hey presto John Wardle usups Bernsrein and city go on to throw good money after bad on shite players until the money runs out and keegan does his harry hudini trick and fucks off!

So now we are a yo yo club, staving off relegation with an untested manager called Stuart Pearce, who doesn't have much off a clue really but, he has inherited a poor squad and just 6 million quid to spend, does he improve the squad with 2-3 good professionals to help our blossoming youth system? Does he fuck he blows the lot on a never seen before Greek waiter! Season is a wash out we just avoid relegation he gets sacked!

Now it starts to get interesting .. Wardle sells to Satan himself ( although he wasn't that bad when interested in Liverpool!) We get Sven shagalot as manager and still have a squad that is utter crap and just avoided relegation. Lets look at the improvements shagalot makes to that squad ...

Garrido - the snail - shite
Bianchi - wears a fuckin muffler - sent back delivering Pizza
Geovani - been found out by Phil Brown now - shite
Fernandes - Anybody seen my head? - shite
Martin Petrov - ok he isn't that bad
Corluka - good player but a bit slow for the premier league - sold
Bojinov - translates as Bolsa Wood - never played more than 30 mins
Benjani - plays well 1 in 6 - shi... well he isn't bad but not good by any stretch
Caicedo - Stick to boxing you old fucker, 21 my arse! - shite
Elano - has to be taken off because gary speed said BOO! - SHITE

We have a miraculous start to the season then at christmas the wheels fall off and we are no better after christmas than under Pearce the season before, we play negative football never try to beat any of the top teams, are considered a push over by smaller clubs and end up getting tonked 8-1 by Gareth - can't take a penalty - Southgate! This one result is an indication of the mental strength and attitude of our squad and if any of them had ANY pride for this club they would see to put it right only one player has done that (You all know who he is) the rest can fuck off for me!

Now my point (hurray you cry!!) You cannot undo all these years of shite built on shite, built on .... and turn it around in 10 minutes forget the money it means nothing to the players here already the earn mega bucks they don't give a fuck about me, you or the club! The signings Mark Hughes has made have been our best players this season - listen to what Ireland, our best and most consistent performer says about his boss - not what a FRINGE player says because he isn't sweating blood for you is he? no he wants shagalot back so he can have it easy.

It takes a season to find out what the players are about. Rumors are 16 will go in the summer the more the better for me! We are not a top 6 team! List our players then the top 6 teams and tell me how many get into them teams not fuckin many will so are we under achieving? No actually we are where we deserve to be! People talk about players being 'world class' because they make a pass or win a header! What the fuck do you know about world class players you have watched Vassell for 5 seasons for fucks sake get real!!

Go ask Blackburn fans on their forums about Hughes, you won't get a bad word said, they didn't concede goals from ever corner/cross/free kick did they? Same manager, same coaches, same methods DIFFERENT PLAYERS WHO AREN'T ARSED!!! that's the difference so stop your whining!

Even if you don't like his methods/tactics/formations or the real reason (he played for united) this club needs to get rid of all the shite that has been accumulating over the years and a new manager won't know what's what for another season so let him sort it out! If we are no better this time next year he will be on his bike because of the amounts of money he will have spent, but i'm confident he will get it right, unlike our players who have never been won anything he has won things all his life and it's that mentality that I like, it's ingrained into winners and Mark Hughes has it remember how much we hated him when he played against us .. that's because he played to WIN got go close to winning actually WIN and you have to respect a man like that not some overpaid primma-donna who plays to look good or get a big contract(Insert players name here!)

Anyway RANT over, stability is the key you cannot undo years of mismanagement in 8 months and all seasoncard holders you have had more value for money this season than any other in the TOP DIVISION than any other in recent years .. Bring on the Hughes out brigade .. Round 1,420,544 Ding Ding ;-)

F*CKIN HELL here we go again lots of hot air and no substance what so ever. No FACTUAL evidense of whay we should keep Hughes. The only valid point made is that Blackburn fans will back you up and say Hughes is great and why? Simple because Hughes over achieved at a club with average/poor permiership playerss.

Son your arguement is a crock of shite and based more on opinion and hearsay than factual evidense. Bringing up that old chestnut about stability thats something you do when you have a manager who's earned the rights to it. My advice is get back to your homework son and stop p***ing about on internet forums. Run along now your mams got your tea on its fish fingers and chips

What an obnoxious tw*t you are!
 
here's a question then cyber goat....

you talk of deadwood etc however since the closing of the window there have been games where up to 7 of the starting eleven have been Hughes signings yet we see absolutely no improvement in performance, tactics and pride in wearing the shirt, tbh we played better quality football at home in the first half of the season (away from home we have been shite all year.....).

Hughes has spent longer with the squad, in some cases nearly 9 months, yet nothing improves.

Why?
 

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