Ian Brady

XxRachXx said:
Seosa said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
I think you will find that it rewards the effort Rach.
It is indeed the gift that keeps on giving.

You heard the man, Rach, you'll piss yourself.

half way through is this guy actually gay :p bb2 really does get slaughtered on here hahaha

Between you and me....he's actually an alias of an existing member. A perverted alter-ego if you may.
 
Seosa said:
XxRachXx said:
Seosa said:
You heard the man, Rach, you'll piss yourself.

half way through is this guy actually gay :p bb2 really does get slaughtered on here hahaha

Between you and me....he's actually an alias of an existing member. A perverted alter-ego if you may.

hmmmmm now im interested to know who it is :D
 
XxRachXx said:
Seosa said:
XxRachXx said:
half way through is this guy actually gay :p bb2 really does get slaughtered on here hahaha

Between you and me....he's actually an alias of an existing member. A perverted alter-ego if you may.

hmmmmm now im interested to know who it is :D

He's about, he posts often, and Cheeses has made annual appearances for special occasions...
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
mackenzie said:
For BB2 and any others who want to know more about Brady, and what he is capable of, there's a docu on Channel 4 at 9pm tonight.
Ive read a lot about him over the years and he truly is almost an aberration of a human being.
I have little doubt that he will continue his mind games and manipulation until his dying breath.

Studied him an awful lot Mac, my thesis, much of which was dissecting 'the gates of janus', found that his continued manipulation extended into print, he purposely planted red herrings in this book in particular, an extension of his warped psyche.

Truly a horrible man but what can be learned from him is priceless - he's currently part of neuronal excitation study by two leading US Mathematicians - a law behind serial killings if you like, quite ground breaking stuff....... it's pretty much like minority report, screenings for pre crime!!!
If brady is such a manipulative, calculating man then was his association with hyndley a meeting of minds between two cold blooded killers or could it have been any young woman who simply fell under his influence. She was in my uncles class at school in Gorton and he remembers her as just an ordinary girl.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
mackenzie said:
For BB2 and any others who want to know more about Brady, and what he is capable of, there's a docu on Channel 4 at 9pm tonight.
Ive read a lot about him over the years and he truly is almost an aberration of a human being.
I have little doubt that he will continue his mind games and manipulation until his dying breath.

Studied him an awful lot Mac, my thesis, much of which was dissecting 'the gates of janus', found that his continued manipulation extended into print, he purposely planted red herrings in this book in particular, an extension of his warped psyche.

Truly a horrible man but what can be learned from him is priceless - he's currently part of neuronal excitation study by two leading US Mathematicians - a law behind serial killings if you like, quite ground breaking stuff....... it's pretty much like minority report, screenings for pre crime!!!

Although the subject matter is indeed horrendous Zin, it is also fascinating.

I think he would laugh at anyone who uses the words 'dignity' 'remorse' and his name in even the same sentence, because he knows what he is and he has no desire to be like the rest of us.
If you challenged his perceived notions of his own 'intelligence' though then that would go some way to discovering his Achilles Heel.
 
2sheikhs said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
mackenzie said:
For BB2 and any others who want to know more about Brady, and what he is capable of, there's a docu on Channel 4 at 9pm tonight.
Ive read a lot about him over the years and he truly is almost an aberration of a human being.
I have little doubt that he will continue his mind games and manipulation until his dying breath.

Studied him an awful lot Mac, my thesis, much of which was dissecting 'the gates of janus', found that his continued manipulation extended into print, he purposely planted red herrings in this book in particular, an extension of his warped psyche.

Truly a horrible man but what can be learned from him is priceless - he's currently part of neuronal excitation study by two leading US Mathematicians - a law behind serial killings if you like, quite ground breaking stuff....... it's pretty much like minority report, screenings for pre crime!!!
If brady is such a manipulative, calculating man then was his association with hyndley a meeting of minds between two cold blooded killers or could it have been any young woman who simply fell under his influence. She was in my uncles class at school in Gorton and he remembers her as just an ordinary girl.

She was indeed an 'ordinary' girl but on the surface only. The violence in her background was noted by a few of her contemporaries in what was a pretty tough neighbourhood. Brady saw something in her and latched onto it.
 
2sheikhs said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
mackenzie said:
For BB2 and any others who want to know more about Brady, and what he is capable of, there's a docu on Channel 4 at 9pm tonight.
Ive read a lot about him over the years and he truly is almost an aberration of a human being.
I have little doubt that he will continue his mind games and manipulation until his dying breath.

Studied him an awful lot Mac, my thesis, much of which was dissecting 'the gates of janus', found that his continued manipulation extended into print, he purposely planted red herrings in this book in particular, an extension of his warped psyche.

Truly a horrible man but what can be learned from him is priceless - he's currently part of neuronal excitation study by two leading US Mathematicians - a law behind serial killings if you like, quite ground breaking stuff....... it's pretty much like minority report, screenings for pre crime!!!
If brady is such a manipulative, calculating man then was his association with hyndley a meeting of minds between two cold blooded killers or could it have been any young woman who simply fell under his influence. She was in my uncles class at school in Gorton and he remembers her as just an ordinary girl.

The grooming, because that was Brady's intention from the off, is a very confusing process - it's calculated in a way where the victim (in this case Hindley) relinquishes potential empathy and empowers the groomer, the act is disregarded as unimportant, Brady chose his victim wisely, testing the barriers to which he was never challenged, it's like an extra sensory tool, the gratification given from the acts mean't very little,it's the execution of plans years and years before which he thrived on.......

Could Brady of manipulated another in the same way? Absolutely
 
mackenzie said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
mackenzie said:
For BB2 and any others who want to know more about Brady, and what he is capable of, there's a docu on Channel 4 at 9pm tonight.
Ive read a lot about him over the years and he truly is almost an aberration of a human being.
I have little doubt that he will continue his mind games and manipulation until his dying breath.

Studied him an awful lot Mac, my thesis, much of which was dissecting 'the gates of janus', found that his continued manipulation extended into print, he purposely planted red herrings in this book in particular, an extension of his warped psyche.

Truly a horrible man but what can be learned from him is priceless - he's currently part of neuronal excitation study by two leading US Mathematicians - a law behind serial killings if you like, quite ground breaking stuff....... it's pretty much like minority report, screenings for pre crime!!!

Although the subject matter is indeed horrendous Zin, it is also fascinating.

I think he would laugh at anyone who uses the words 'dignity' 'remorse' and his name in even the same sentence, because he knows what he is and he has no desire to be like the rest of us.
If you challenged his perceived notions of his own 'intelligence' though then that would go some way to discovering his Achilles Heel.

This is the problem - he never allows consistent analysis in his behaviours, it's part of the game with him, if he was told he could die tomorrow he'd fight it, it's all about self empowerment, a master of his own destiny if you like, what he can't control however is the analysis of his neurological brain patterns!!!
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
mackenzie said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Studied him an awful lot Mac, my thesis, much of which was dissecting 'the gates of janus', found that his continued manipulation extended into print, he purposely planted red herrings in this book in particular, an extension of his warped psyche.

Truly a horrible man but what can be learned from him is priceless - he's currently part of neuronal excitation study by two leading US Mathematicians - a law behind serial killings if you like, quite ground breaking stuff....... it's pretty much like minority report, screenings for pre crime!!!

Although the subject matter is indeed horrendous Zin, it is also fascinating.

I think he would laugh at anyone who uses the words 'dignity' 'remorse' and his name in even the same sentence, because he knows what he is and he has no desire to be like the rest of us.
If you challenged his perceived notions of his own 'intelligence' though then that would go some way to discovering his Achilles Heel.

This is the problem - he never allows consistent analysis in his behaviours, it's part of the game with him, if he was told he could die tomorrow he'd fight it, it's all about self empowerment, a master of his own destiny if you like, what he can't control however is the analysis of his neurological brain patterns!!!

Which I think goes some way to explaining why he lets some in and then denies them access. It's as if it's all a chess game to him.
What's all this with the analysis of his neurological brain patterns? Pm me if you want, am interested.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
2sheikhs said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Studied him an awful lot Mac, my thesis, much of which was dissecting 'the gates of janus', found that his continued manipulation extended into print, he purposely planted red herrings in this book in particular, an extension of his warped psyche.

Truly a horrible man but what can be learned from him is priceless - he's currently part of neuronal excitation study by two leading US Mathematicians - a law behind serial killings if you like, quite ground breaking stuff....... it's pretty much like minority report, screenings for pre crime!!!
If brady is such a manipulative, calculating man then was his association with hyndley a meeting of minds between two cold blooded killers or could it have been any young woman who simply fell under his influence. She was in my uncles class at school in Gorton and he remembers her as just an ordinary girl.

The grooming, because that was Brady's intention from the off, is a very confusing process - it's calculated in a way where the victim (in this case Hindley) relinquishes potential empathy and empowers the groomer, the act is disregarded as unimportant, Brady chose his victim wisely, testing the barriers to which he was never challenged, it's like an extra sensory tool, the gratification given from the acts mean't very little,it's the execution of plans years and years before which he thrived on.......

Could Brady of manipulated another in the same way? Absolutely
I understand that you and mackenzie would never excuse what hindley did and I haven't studied this subject that deeply but in effect, are we saying that hindley was just another of his victims due to the fact that she was weak willed and easily led?
Mackenzie has alluded to the fact that she had a troubled upbringing and may have had deep seated problems. Lots of people have a dark side to their nature. We're lucky that maniacs like brady who can exploit this are few and far between.
 

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