If Mancini is so bad

St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The comment about not seperating emotion from football sums up the problem with all the Johnny come latelys at our club.

This is the reason I am very close to jacking it .....

HAHAHA Brilliant...My 12 yr old in tears to me yesterday..Is he a **** for not being able to detach his emotions from his passion for football and all things MCFC.

Fucking hell some of our so called fans......lets all have zero emotions hey.
Who said anything about separating emotion from football?

I certainly didn't.

What I said was that people can't look at Mancini's performance without emotion.

Johnny come lately? Good one.
 
Who ever we get MUST be able to speak English.be able to speak (or not speak) to the press, and have a track record..maybe even be able tp speak Spanish?

That only leaves Rafa.
 
stanHayes said:
Who ever we get MUST be able to speak English.be able to speak (or not speak) to the press, and have a track record..maybe even be able tp speak Spanish?

That only leaves Rafa.

JUPP HEYNCKES!!
 
gangerolv said:
dctid said:
gangerolv said:
Get rid of the players that don't respect Mancini. Many players have a problem with the manager. They win if Mancini get sacked. It's like giving ice cream to a screaming kid. And the players can just keep this going by turning their back on the manager if they don't like him. This is not good for morale. And it will give them the upper hand. Mancini is the boss here. No matter what.

Look at Sir Baconface. He fucked off Stam, Nistelrooy, Beckham even if they were big stars cause they had a dispute with him.

Tevez smiling goes off? How the fuck dare he after all he has done in the past? I dont give a fuck how hard he works. He should be hanging his fucking head in shame for the rest of his career for what he did to Mancini two years ago.

Tevez was not smiling i the sense he was happy - i think he was perplexed as too why him and not Aguero or others and he is right.

Tevez should have stayed on

Yes. He was pissed off and shocked. But that smile just indicated that there is no respect for the manager. This behaviour influence the rest of the team, the whole fucking press corps and the fans as well. No reason for that.

We still had 11 billionaries out there. They did fuck all for Mancini, the Machester City shirt AND THEIR FANS!

Don't agree, I think Tevez was genuinely bemused why he was the one coming off when others, like Sergio, had done piss all. Mancini's decision to take off firstly Nasri and then Tevez has been roundly panned in the press today and justifiably so...after those two came off we created very little.
 
samharris said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
City fans are a good and loyal bunch in the main.

When football fans start calling the shots, that's a dangerous path to go down.

We need to trust the men at the top.

Plenty of fans wanted Sven to stay. Plenty thought stability was the key with Hughes.

Blimey Tolmie I just pm'd the same thing to someone..


The major difference with regards the past is we now have a set of owners whose only focus is to make us as big as we can possibly be.

They are not burdened by so many years of hurt, they can look at things a lot more objectively and with informed clarity.

For me, it's not a question of stating why Mancini is so bad.

It's that he is not quite good enough.

Football is all fine margins, we could be talking today about one FA Cup in three and a half years at whatever the numbers run to, but for a swish of Aguero's boot.

Personally, I believe we are still at least five years away from being classed among the elite.

I watched those Champions League later rounds and some of the stuff being played was scary.<br /><br />-- Sun May 12, 2013 10:00 am --<br /><br />
stanHayes said:
Who ever we get MUST be able to speak English.be able to speak (or not speak) to the press, and have a track record..maybe even be able tp speak Spanish?

That only leaves Rafa.


Pellegrini speaks excellent English.

Think his Spanish is okay!
 
@BluePhil8 said:
Here is the analogy I would use:
(From my experience the majority of the Inners are 40+ years old)

A guy, who hasn't had a girlfriend for 40 years, suddenly gets one. She is smoking hot and has sex with him all the time. However, this girl is a massive woman, she is a gold digger who spends a ridiculous amount of money. She constantly berates this guys friends and family and causes arguments for no reason. But this guy keeps with her because he has been so lonely for 40 years he can't bare the thought of returning to what he had before.

I (20) have had two season tickets (when they were cheaper) and the majority of guys at a game are over 40. They have the most disposable income and have also know the bad times.

As a younger guy who hasn't know the anguish, I can look at it objectively and remove emotion. Mancini is a good manager, he will go down as one of our greatest. However, he has many flaws. Klopp or Pellegrini can do an equal job with us in terms of silverware, whilst also providing the club with financial sustainability moving forward and whilst improving our playing style.

Remember, you might sing his name at a match, you might love him. But do the players love him? Nasri wouldn't even block a free kick for his manager. Under Mourinho any player would take a ball to the face with pride because they love him.


So we get rid of Mancini, bring in Mourinho/Pelligrini/Martinez (perm any 1 from 50 odd) and they win nothing? It's time for stability within our management team, as well as among our players. Let's build not demolish.

I may be old(er) but I do realise that everyone, whoever they may be, is not perfect. They strive, as Mancini is doing, for perfection but it never comes and (sorry for this) Rome wasn't built in a day!!
 
Mancini isn't 'so bad'. He's a good manager. The question is is he the right man to take the club forwards?

I've never turned a top club into one of the all time great clubs whereas Txiki and Ferran have. Makes sense to me to give them the benefit of the doubt - esp. in their first major decision at the club(if it comes to that)
 
IcriedwhenTueartleft said:
Don't agree, I think Tevez was genuinely bemused why he was the one coming off when others, like Sergio, had done piss all. Mancini's decision to take off firstly Nasri and then Tevez has been roundly panned in the press today and justifiably so...after those two came off we created very little.

Spot on. Tevez's smirk was being utterly bewildered as to why his number had come up. I can honestly say that he would have been the last player I'd have taken off yesterday.
 
Eccles Blue said:
@BluePhil8 said:
Here is the analogy I would use:
(From my experience the majority of the Inners are 40+ years old)

A guy, who hasn't had a girlfriend for 40 years, suddenly gets one. She is smoking hot and has sex with him all the time. However, this girl is a massive woman, she is a gold digger who spends a ridiculous amount of money. She constantly berates this guys friends and family and causes arguments for no reason. But this guy keeps with her because he has been so lonely for 40 years he can't bare the thought of returning to what he had before.

I (20) have had two season tickets (when they were cheaper) and the majority of guys at a game are over 40. They have the most disposable income and have also know the bad times.

As a younger guy who hasn't know the anguish, I can look at it objectively and remove emotion. Mancini is a good manager, he will go down as one of our greatest. However, he has many flaws. Klopp or Pellegrini can do an equal job with us in terms of silverware, whilst also providing the club with financial sustainability moving forward and whilst improving our playing style.

Remember, you might sing his name at a match, you might love him. But do the players love him? Nasri wouldn't even block a free kick for his manager. Under Mourinho any player would take a ball to the face with pride because they love him.


So we get rid of Mancini, bring in Mourinho/Pelligrini/Martinez (perm any 1 from 50 odd) and they win nothing? It's time for stability within our management team, as well as among our players. Let's build not demolish.

I may be old(er) but I do realise that everyone, whoever they may be, is not perfect. They strive, as Mancini is doing, for perfection but it never comes and (sorry for this) Rome wasn't built in a day!!
I agree that it is time for stability, however Mancini isn't the right man to back. We have stagnated this season, regressed from last season. It is not good enough. I don't care about the last 35 years. I care about the present, we need to aggressively seek to become the best team in England in every department.
 

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