If Mancini is so bad

@BluePhil8 said:
Here is the analogy I would use:
(From my experience the majority of the Inners are 40+ years old)

A guy, who hasn't had a girlfriend for 40 years, suddenly gets one. She is smoking hot and has sex with him all the time. However, this girl is a massive woman, she is a gold digger who spends a ridiculous amount of money. She constantly berates this guys friends and family and causes arguments for no reason. But this guy keeps with her because he has been so lonely for 40 years he can't bare the thought of returning to what he had before.

I (20) have had two season tickets (when they were cheaper) and the majority of guys at a game are over 40. They have the most disposable income and have also know the bad times.

As a younger guy who hasn't know the anguish, I can look at it objectively and remove emotion. Mancini is a good manager, he will go down as one of our greatest. However, he has many flaws. Klopp or Pellegrini can do an equal job with us in terms of silverware, whilst also providing the club with financial sustainability moving forward and whilst improving our playing style.

Remember, you might sing his name at a match, you might love him. But do the players love him? Nasri wouldn't even block a free kick for his manager. Under Mourinho any player would take a ball to the face with pride because they love him.

39 married,3 kids 12,4 and 5 months-I am an inner 100%....
 
Mike N said:
Sorry but anyone who uses the term 'Happy Clappers' is a twat. Seriously, what is it supposed to mean?

Its what those who cant handle defeat use to riddicule those who can..

Its also strange that those who use the term 'happy clappers' are not happy and they are not clapping..

what do they fucking want then... oh yes...they want to clap and they want to be happy..

so getting a new manager will in fact make them 'happy clappers'..


citeh fans eh...
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
It was how the season has gone.

Mancini's name was sung loud and proud the first 10 minutes of the game. Then the realisation of how shit we were playing started to dawn on us.

HT comes and we are hoping we turn it round. Yes we were awful but we can beat Wigan we have by far the better players.

2nd half kicks off and Mancini's name is sung again. Loud and proud once more with a couple more anti Pellegrini songs.

Around the 60 minute mark silence in our end as we realise again its fucking shite to watch and somehow we are getting outplayed again. Tevez is taken off for Rodwell and most fans haven't got a clue why Tevez had to be the one to go off.

Unsurprisingly we continue to struggle, many fans notice the 3 at the back change and start to worry as that never works. Some even asking to quicken the pace (that's never going to happen)

We then go on to lose and a lot of fans are gutted at how we threw it away. Most realising the striking similarity between yesterday and the game 3 weeks ago at the Etihad.

Agree with this, at the game most fans are loyal to the manager and sing his name. However tactically Martinez taught Mancini a lesson, he exploited our weaknesses while Roberto had no answer.

The tub thumping from both sides is rather embarrassing. For the people who want Mancini to remain whatever happens are blinkered but equally the comments slating the man who won us the league title are ridiculous.

I was on the fence but now feel things are going stale and a fresh impetus is needed. We need to change our style and I am not sure Mancini has it in him to do that. Clearly we are hoping to integrate youth players into the team and Pellegrini is known for getting the best out of more limited players. Reading up on his career he seems universally liked and is an intellect and articulate guy.

He speaks fluent English and in my eyes is one of the top managers in World football, the argument he has not won anything is valid but he has all the tools in his locker to take a team and build a legacy. As Mancini has and now he has now secured a top place in our history.

Who is the better manager is purely subjective, Owen Coyle was hot property not so long ago and now he is ridiculed. Management requires drive and passion but also a large degree of luck. We need a change as people accept this season has been shocking and personally I think we are doing pretty well securing Pellegrini. He is a shrewd and wise man, who the media will love and us as fans will also take to as we would with any new manager.
 
ANY1aBLUE said:
AshtonBlueMooner said:
Why was everyone repeatedly singing his name yesterday??

When the rumours were flying about before the game the majority of fans I spoke to were going nuts hence the 'you can stick your Pellegrini up.....'

If we want him we should back him and continue to back him. If we don't, we should let the club do what they are going to do. If not, are we not sending out mixed messages to the Chairman, board, etc. Not that they will listen but it is very odd how Bobby is getting slated in a number of threads and yet the fans who were at the game were singing his name for 90 minutes, or is that where the answer lies?

Some of us weren't! I have said many times - i didnt want him, i dont like him or his style/tactics/man management etc, and the only good thing from my point of view about yesterdays debacle was hastening his departure.............i believe i've been proved right at last. So, i'm no hypocrite and would have said this even if we'd won.

-- Sun May 12, 2013 9:55 am --

@BluePhil8 said:
Here is the analogy I would use:
(From my experience the majority of the Inners are 40+ years old)

A guy, who hasn't had a girlfriend for 40 years, suddenly gets one. She is smoking hot and has sex with him all the time. However, this girl is a massive woman, she is a gold digger who spends a ridiculous amount of money. She constantly berates this guys friends and family and causes arguments for no reason. But this guy keeps with her because he has been so lonely for 40 years he can't bare the thought of returning to what he had before.

I (20) have had two season tickets (when they were cheaper) and the majority of guys at a game are over 40. They have the most disposable income and have also know the bad times.

As a younger guy who hasn't know the anguish, I can look at it objectively and remove emotion. Mancini is a good manager, he will go down as one of our greatest. However, he has many flaws. Klopp or Pellegrini can do an equal job with us in terms of silverware, whilst also providing the club with financial sustainability moving forward and whilst improving our playing style.

Remember, you might sing his name at a match, you might love him. But do the players love him? Nasri wouldn't even block a free kick for his manager. Under Mourinho any player would take a ball to the face with pride because they love him.

im 53yrs - im an outer!

Me 44 and dito. But well put :D
 
totally sat on the fence - still really really pissed off about yesterdays performance.

Is Mancini a bad manager clearly anybody whom says such a thing is clearly talkings shite and yes he does get pelters when we lose such is football and so to most other managers. However in the cold light of day if i was the owner and it was my money he would be gone this morning.

CL disasterous
Prem over by Feb
Carling - similar performance to yesterday just turn up and we win
FA - shambolic

My issue as an owner would be why are players whom i am paying top draw wages dare put in a performance like that it was half arsed and quite frankly insulting and can Mancini bounce back like Ferguson did this season.

Personally i dont think he can
 
Lancet Fluke said:
gangerolv said:
Lancet Fluke said:
So which of the players from yesterday would you get Mancini to "fuck right off" because not many played well. You see this is the issue the club has. If it was one or two who weren't performing to their potential then you can single them out, get rid and replace. Unfortunately when it is the majority of the squad (and I do believe that the majority of our players have not performed to their potential this season) then surely you have to ask the questions why is that happening and who ultimately is responsible for large numbers of the playing squad underperforming. I refuse to believe that it is some bizarre coincidence that so many players have been so relatively poor this season by their own high standards.

Yes. There seems to be a huge dispute in the club at the moment with the players turning their back to Mancini.

Who I blame? I blame the fucking captain. Vincent Kompany. He is supposed to hold this team togheter. Be Mancinis right hand. He dont care.

And what about Yaya. I'm sick of his lazy face. His body language says it all. He is supposed to be the role model for the other ones out there. Yesterday was the FA Cup Final. He never showed up. And never gets any stick for it cause he is our 'best' player. NO HE IS NOT!

I let Mancini decide who is going to leave. Everyone who disrespect him should fuck off. Even if it means to buy a whole new team. But personally I would get rid of Yaya. Send the players a message.

The thing is. If the starting Manchester City eleven had the same heart as Wigan did yesterday we would have won 7-0. That's not Mancinis fault. He could have played fucking Samaras and it wouldnt have made a difference.

So the answer to our problems is to get rid of Kompany and Yaya, is that what you're saying?

Get rid of the players that don't respect Mancini. Many players have a problem with the manager. They win if Mancini get sacked. It's like giving ice cream to a screaming kid. And the players can just keep this going by turning their back on the manager if they don't like him. This is not good for morale. And it will give them the upper hand. Mancini is the boss here. No matter what.

Look at Sir Baconface. He fucked off Stam, Nistelrooy, Beckham even if they were big stars cause they had a dispute with him.

Tevez smiling goes off? How the fuck dare he after all he has done in the past? I dont give a fuck how hard he works. He should be hanging his fucking head in shame for the rest of his career for what he did to Mancini two years ago.
 
gangerolv said:
Lancet Fluke said:
gangerolv said:
Yes. There seems to be a huge dispute in the club at the moment with the players turning their back to Mancini.

Who I blame? I blame the fucking captain. Vincent Kompany. He is supposed to hold this team togheter. Be Mancinis right hand. He dont care.

And what about Yaya. I'm sick of his lazy face. His body language says it all. He is supposed to be the role model for the other ones out there. Yesterday was the FA Cup Final. He never showed up. And never gets any stick for it cause he is our 'best' player. NO HE IS NOT!

I let Mancini decide who is going to leave. Everyone who disrespect him should fuck off. Even if it means to buy a whole new team. But personally I would get rid of Yaya. Send the players a message.

The thing is. If the starting Manchester City eleven had the same heart as Wigan did yesterday we would have won 7-0. That's not Mancinis fault. He could have played fucking Samaras and it wouldnt have made a difference.

So the answer to our problems is to get rid of Kompany and Yaya, is that what you're saying?

Get rid of the players that don't respect Mancini. Many players have a problem with the manager. They win if Mancini get sacked. It's like giving ice cream to a screaming kid. And the players can just keep this going by turning their back on the manager if they don't like him. This is not good for morale. And it will give them the upper hand. Mancini is the boss here. No matter what.

Look at Sir Baconface. He fucked off Stam, Nistelrooy, Beckham even if they were big stars cause they had a dispute with him.

Tevez smiling goes off? How the fuck dare he after all he has done in the past? I dont give a fuck how hard he works. He should be hanging his fucking head in shame for the rest of his career for what he did to Mancini two years ago.

Tevez was not smiling i the sense he was happy - i think he was perplexed as too why him and not Aguero or others and he is right.

Tevez should have stayed on
 

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