Blue_Rossy
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Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
Problem solved.
Jose as manager and Mancini as his number 2.
Problem solved.
Jose as manager and Mancini as his number 2.
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If the owner confirms Mancini...
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ST Coleridge
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Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
What do you clamour for then, Billy? I mean, on the pitch - I'm not talking about body language, or perceived lack of passion, etc. Do you want the famous 'pace and width'? Barca keep possession, and play in front of the opposition's defence - the only difference is that their movement is better. Ours will get there, if we show a bit of patience. This is a model to aspire to, in my opinion. If you want something else, fair enough.
You hold up Spurs as an example - we score more than them, Billy. They played a horrid long-ball game against Milan, and they were similarly shit against WH on Saturday (they played it down the wings, but with only Defoe on they weren't winning any crosses. Redknapp swapped over Bale and Lennon, who were both rendered ineffective when they weren't busting a gut for the byline). You hold up the rags - they came to COMS and were even more cautious than Evil Mancini, as they always are when they play Arsenal or Chelsea.
Ugh, don't be dense - keeping the ball at the back, until the correct passing opportunities present themselves, is obviously preferable to hitting it long/wide and perhaps losing possession. The style is great, it's the execution (movement and passing) that needs to improve.
Maybe you didn't say it, but a fair few seem totally shocked by the prospect of Mancini staying.
BillyShears said:Do you know, it's funny, I've not read a single person clamouring for a "long-ball/counter-based approach"....oh, hang on, you're going to tell me that Spurs, the rags, and Chelsea play a "long-ball/counter-based approach"...PMSL.
What do you clamour for then, Billy? I mean, on the pitch - I'm not talking about body language, or perceived lack of passion, etc. Do you want the famous 'pace and width'? Barca keep possession, and play in front of the opposition's defence - the only difference is that their movement is better. Ours will get there, if we show a bit of patience. This is a model to aspire to, in my opinion. If you want something else, fair enough.
You hold up Spurs as an example - we score more than them, Billy. They played a horrid long-ball game against Milan, and they were similarly shit against WH on Saturday (they played it down the wings, but with only Defoe on they weren't winning any crosses. Redknapp swapped over Bale and Lennon, who were both rendered ineffective when they weren't busting a gut for the byline). You hold up the rags - they came to COMS and were even more cautious than Evil Mancini, as they always are when they play Arsenal or Chelsea.
Again, you don't see the stupidity of what you've posted above??? Are there only two ways to play football - Mancini's way or "shit percentage tactics"???.
Ugh, don't be dense - keeping the ball at the back, until the correct passing opportunities present themselves, is obviously preferable to hitting it long/wide and perhaps losing possession. The style is great, it's the execution (movement and passing) that needs to improve.
There's a big big difference between people preferring Mou to Mancini, and people saying Mou is definitely coming.
Maybe you didn't say it, but a fair few seem totally shocked by the prospect of Mancini staying.
Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
I don't believe in XXX-Out campaigns. IMO it should never be up to the fans who satays or goes. It's up to peep running the club. We owe them that for the time and money they've gifted us.
But we as "consumers" are perfectly entitled to be turned away by an unattractive product. IMO you can take a break from City for a while and still be a true blue. We have to when things happen in our lives for example.
So the Owner can back or fire Mancini, I can watch the games or not and I can moan all I like ... Just once I don't start thinking me shouting about it is within my rights.
I don't believe in XXX-Out campaigns. IMO it should never be up to the fans who satays or goes. It's up to peep running the club. We owe them that for the time and money they've gifted us.
But we as "consumers" are perfectly entitled to be turned away by an unattractive product. IMO you can take a break from City for a while and still be a true blue. We have to when things happen in our lives for example.
So the Owner can back or fire Mancini, I can watch the games or not and I can moan all I like ... Just once I don't start thinking me shouting about it is within my rights.
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Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
Holding up Barca as an example is pointless - they have technically, the best players in the world. But we'll use it nonetheless. What's the fundamental difference between them and us? Their pressing game. When they lose the ball, they don't all turn and head for their penalty area, they hunt the ball and win it back in packs. That's an enormous and fundamental difference between the way they play and the way we play. It's something which Mancini could implement now if he wanted to.
The rags were more defensive than us at COMS? We obviously watched different games - as to my eyes they were the ones committing men forward in the second half, making changes to win the game. We were the ones sitting back, defending deep, and hoping to nick a goal.
I'm not going to argue the toss about Spurs - I think they play great football. If you think they play a long ball one dimensional game that's your business...
Why is keeping the ball at the back preferable to hitting it wide? Last season we beat Chelsea at SB by utilizing Bellamy's pace from wide areas.
I'm not disputing that possession football is fantastic, but I am disputing that having only one way to play, and only being capable of playing at one pace is a good thing. You say the execution of movement of passing needs to improve - no shit....so how long do we give Roberto to teach our squad of top class footballers to move the ball quicker and increase the speed of thought of their own movement? Do you have any ideas why we have only a handful of times this season managed to play in this manner?
You see, I hear all the excuses - they've been regurgitated all season - but what I'm not seeing is progress on the footballing side. We're as one dimensional, as slow, today as were were when the season started. Mancini's decision making during games is becoming more and more questionable - the latest example being his post match comments that the players were tired after 60 minutes - yet on 75 minutes he was about to bring on Boyata and leave the midfield and forward areas untouched...
ST Coleridge said:What do you clamour for then, Billy? I mean, on the pitch - I'm not talking about body language, or perceived lack of passion, etc. Do you want the famous 'pace and width'? Barca keep possession, and play in front of the opposition's defence - the only difference is that their movement is better. Ours will get there, if we show a bit of patience. This is a model to aspire to, in my opinion. If you want something else, fair enough.
Holding up Barca as an example is pointless - they have technically, the best players in the world. But we'll use it nonetheless. What's the fundamental difference between them and us? Their pressing game. When they lose the ball, they don't all turn and head for their penalty area, they hunt the ball and win it back in packs. That's an enormous and fundamental difference between the way they play and the way we play. It's something which Mancini could implement now if he wanted to.
You hold up Spurs as an example - we score more than them, Billy. They played a horrid long-ball game against Milan, and they were similarly shit against WH on Saturday (they played it down the wings, but with only Defoe on they weren't winning any crosses. Redknapp swapped over Bale and Lennon, who were both rendered ineffective when they weren't busting a gut for the byline). You hold up the rags - they came to COMS and were even more cautious than Evil Mancini, as they always are when they play Arsenal or Chelsea.
The rags were more defensive than us at COMS? We obviously watched different games - as to my eyes they were the ones committing men forward in the second half, making changes to win the game. We were the ones sitting back, defending deep, and hoping to nick a goal.
I'm not going to argue the toss about Spurs - I think they play great football. If you think they play a long ball one dimensional game that's your business...
Ugh, don't be dense - keeping the ball at the back, until the correct passing opportunities present themselves, is obviously preferable to hitting it long/wide and perhaps losing possession. The style is great, it's the execution (movement and passing) that needs to improve.
Why is keeping the ball at the back preferable to hitting it wide? Last season we beat Chelsea at SB by utilizing Bellamy's pace from wide areas.
I'm not disputing that possession football is fantastic, but I am disputing that having only one way to play, and only being capable of playing at one pace is a good thing. You say the execution of movement of passing needs to improve - no shit....so how long do we give Roberto to teach our squad of top class footballers to move the ball quicker and increase the speed of thought of their own movement? Do you have any ideas why we have only a handful of times this season managed to play in this manner?
You see, I hear all the excuses - they've been regurgitated all season - but what I'm not seeing is progress on the footballing side. We're as one dimensional, as slow, today as were were when the season started. Mancini's decision making during games is becoming more and more questionable - the latest example being his post match comments that the players were tired after 60 minutes - yet on 75 minutes he was about to bring on Boyata and leave the midfield and forward areas untouched...
Bill
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Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
i must say that with these players i would do a much better job than old bobby, these are world stars, i'd say here you go boys there's a football now go gerrum.
8 games left 24 points and a cup win.
that or appoint someone out of work for the rest of the season, cappello will be available after sat night.
i could'nt afford the pay cut but its a good shout anyway.bobmcfc said:de niro said:if you must know i'm not going to wembley, i'm refuse point blank to go to another city game whilst we play that type of football.i was talking to a united fan this morning and he said he'd go if he had a ticket, no problem you can have mine, at least they are being used and i'll get my points up for when we do get a good manager.
if your not going to go to city anymore maybe you could form a breakaway club called FC city of manchester. you could be the manager and they'd play the style of football you like.
i must say that with these players i would do a much better job than old bobby, these are world stars, i'd say here you go boys there's a football now go gerrum.
8 games left 24 points and a cup win.
that or appoint someone out of work for the rest of the season, cappello will be available after sat night.
Prestwich_Blue
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Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
I'd think he'd failed again to find a decent manager. Or that Mancini had some compromising pictures of Sheikh Mansour.Mancio said:a question for the mancini outers
what would you think about the owner IF he confirm mancini for the next season ?
Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
we've again become a laughing stock. we have just wasted 3 years.
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Oh please!!!
What a load of bollocks... you should know better... laughing stock FFS?...
de niro said:we've again become a laughing stock. we have just wasted 3 years.
there is nothing we can do except dust ourselves down and get on with the rest of the season.
we've again become a laughing stock. we have just wasted 3 years.
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Oh please!!!
What a load of bollocks... you should know better... laughing stock FFS?...
ST Coleridge
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Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
1) I'd like to see us press 'in packs' more, but it's silly to say that our forwards don't press - they all do, especially Silva and Tevez.
2) I thought it was an even (but extremely tight) game, Billy, and the stats show 4 shots each. The rags look to play on the counter in almost every away game, you know they do. And they're great at it. We're not there yet, granted.
3) Spurs don't play 'great football', Billy. They play fast football. This is the difference between the Europe and the UK - they appreciate tactics and passing, not just goals and sliding tackles.
4) He needs to drop Yaya and move Silva to the middle, that's about my only iidea. Again, don't give me this 'one-paced' shit - we were very good up until January. Since then, we've looked fatigued, due to injuries and too many games. But still we've only been beaten four times, by United, Villa, Chelsea and in -3c Kiev.
I like the way we play - I like Hart rolling it out, I like keeping the ball on the deck and looking for through balls. You like Spurs' style - again, fair enough. Don't reckon we're going to resolve this one any time soon.
BillyShears said:Holding up Barca as an example is pointless - they have technically, the best players in the world. But we'll use it nonetheless. What's the fundamental difference between them and us? Their pressing game. When they lose the ball, they don't all turn and head for their penalty area, they hunt the ball and win it back in packs. That's an enormous and fundamental difference between the way they play and the way we play. It's something which Mancini could implement now if he wanted to.
The rags were more defensive than us at COMS? We obviously watched different games - as to my eyes they were the ones committing men forward in the second half, making changes to win the game. We were the ones sitting back, defending deep, and hoping to nick a goal.
I'm not going to argue the toss about Spurs - I think they play great football. If you think they play a long ball one dimensional game that's your business...
Why is keeping the ball at the back preferable to hitting it wide? Last season we beat Chelsea at SB by utilizing Bellamy's pace from wide areas.
I'm not disputing that possession football is fantastic, but I am disputing that having only one way to play, and only being capable of playing at one pace is a good thing. You say the execution of movement of passing needs to improve - no shit....so how long do we give Roberto to teach our squad of top class footballers to move the ball quicker and increase the speed of thought of their own movement? Do you have any ideas why we have only a handful of times this season managed to play in this manner?
You see, I hear all the excuses - they've been regurgitated all season - but what I'm not seeing is progress on the footballing side. We're as one dimensional, as slow, today as were were when the season started. Mancini's decision making during games is becoming more and more questionable - the latest example being his post match comments that the players were tired after 60 minutes - yet on 75 minutes he was about to bring on Boyata and leave the midfield and forward areas untouched...
1) I'd like to see us press 'in packs' more, but it's silly to say that our forwards don't press - they all do, especially Silva and Tevez.
2) I thought it was an even (but extremely tight) game, Billy, and the stats show 4 shots each. The rags look to play on the counter in almost every away game, you know they do. And they're great at it. We're not there yet, granted.
3) Spurs don't play 'great football', Billy. They play fast football. This is the difference between the Europe and the UK - they appreciate tactics and passing, not just goals and sliding tackles.
4) He needs to drop Yaya and move Silva to the middle, that's about my only iidea. Again, don't give me this 'one-paced' shit - we were very good up until January. Since then, we've looked fatigued, due to injuries and too many games. But still we've only been beaten four times, by United, Villa, Chelsea and in -3c Kiev.
I like the way we play - I like Hart rolling it out, I like keeping the ball on the deck and looking for through balls. You like Spurs' style - again, fair enough. Don't reckon we're going to resolve this one any time soon.
Bill
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Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
there are lot of people around here who dont like or want to face the truth.
i would say 3 years after coming in to 550 billion pounds we should have won something or at least be very comfortable in a top 4 place.
levets said:de niro said:we've again become a laughing stock. we have just wasted 3 years.
there is nothing we can do except dust ourselves down and get on with the rest of the season.
we've again become a laughing stock. we have just wasted 3 years.
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Oh please!!!
What a load of bollocks... you should know better... laughing stock FFS?...
there are lot of people around here who dont like or want to face the truth.
i would say 3 years after coming in to 550 billion pounds we should have won something or at least be very comfortable in a top 4 place.
Prestwich_Blue
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Re: if the Owner confirm mancini....
Do you also like having needles pushed through your nipples and weights attached to your testicles as well?ST Coleridge said:I like the way we play