If the rot continues what happens ?

I think ultimately the club have got stuck in two minds. For the past four years and beyond we have had unprecedented success. The most successful English club side in history, you cannot debate facts!!

However the club have got caught up in the success and when we should have changed the squad more and mixed it up we just haven’t. Now hindsight is a wonderful thing but if we are all honest most of us would have had a problem and been unhappy over the last 4 years if we had let certain players go even if it was the right thing to do.

It’s the same with regretting letting players go. Now I personally have always thought that we should try our youth players more than we do and never wanted us to sell Palmer or Lavia but you can’t complain when you still win the league and I didn’t for one minute expect we would be languishing in 5th whilst Chelsea are second with our former coach and 4 of our youth team players in their squad.

I guess the long drawn out point I am making is that the club acted like a sentimental fan while we winning every season when we should have acted efficiently and looked to the future much better than we have done.

I must be honest to myself though I would probably have done the same because these players are legends of the club for what they have achieved. And now we are stuck in a run that 9 out of 10 teams would have sacked their manager but he is the greatest manager we have ever had and possibly ever will so now we are all confused because we want things to change but also don’t want things to change at the same time.

My head is fried
Fried Rice?
 
I remember Liverpool in their great years of the 70's / 80's

The squads were much smaller then, but their policy every summer was to replace the weakest player in the team

In this game if you stand still you go backwards
Agreed last summer we should have replaced Walker KDB and not brought Gundogen back to replace himself(lol)
Players like Rice and Kane should have been bought as soon as word was out they wanted moves possibly Maddison too and that is only looking in England ffs
 
How many games in this run do we lose if Rodri was playing?..

Absolutely incredible the impact he's had on and now off the pitch.
 
We have the quality to challenge for top 4 and that's the goal now. The problem seems to be the confidence is absolutely shattered and this manager and group of players are now in unchartered waters and the last thing they need is the fans turning on them at every opportunity.. Which is now happening and the red lot must be loving it as we turn on our own like rabid hyenas..
 
As supporters we need to support the lads
The supporters are behind the players every match for the full game

The supporters are venting their anger and frustration on forums like these

You don't think for one second the players or management come on here? As soon as they're changed and back in their cars the shit result is forgotten
 
The supporters are behind the players every match for the full game

The supporters are venting their anger and frustration on forums like these

You don't think for one second the players or management come on here? As soon as they're changed and back in their cars the shit result is forgotten
Not sure about that

Some of the players maybe but most will give a shit we are in this shit period of form
 
I agree with virtually everything you say. I'd just add an opinion that Kova is very limited imho and already 30, isn't going to improve and as a grade down from the likes of Ferna and Rodri, should be considered only as a back-up player anyway. He's in for the season now that Rodri's 'had it' for the season, so we are functioning below top level as long as he has to be our number 1. (Gundo is a level - or 2 - below Kova currently, and isn't looking like getting back to his former standard.)
Kova is not a true DM. He is a CM. We need a DM in now/Jan, who can play instead of Rodri for the here and now and the with him when he hopefully returns. Zubamendi has played with and also replaced Rodri for Spain.

Rodri - DM
Zubamendi - DM who can play CM
Kovacic - CM who can help at DM on occasion

Above would be solid. Gundogan is finished, should never have been brought back (big error on our part) and needs to go
 

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