Irish Current Affairs.

Actually doing something out of curiosity, which I haven done in a long time.
I’m watching Patrick Kielty on The Late Late Show.
It’s every bit as naff as ever it was but, with regards to recent discussions in here with Sadds and AWG and out of interest in opinions from all other Northern Irish posters or Scottish for that matter, I found Ciara McGeehan’s interview quite interesting.
She’ s Irish record holder at 400 800 and 1500 metres and Northern Irish.
Kielty himself is too and James Nesbitt is also a guest.
I find the dual citizenship thing that they each are a fabulous ambassadors for, an absolutely wonderful gift. A fabulous consequence of the GFA that allows Ciara run for Ireland as is her wish and also represent Northern Ireland in the Commonwealth Games, which she is extremely proud of. Nesbitt has a British and Irish passport too. He as a Protestant totally embraces the celebration of what unifies or binds people rather than what separates or differentiates them.
He spoke really well about, how for years people were looking for what made them different rather than what commonalities concerned them.

I appreciate that other people in the UK would like the benefits they have from the protocol also but obviously people in Scotland don’t have a GFA.

But Sadds think tank sketches really do throw up some interesting ideas.
We’ve enough to think about back here, but I do think it throws a lot of food for thought to the rest of the UK, not just NI.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Where do you import the sensible adults from?
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I think a proviso was that you would be talking about pro remain Wales/Eng. Scotland/NI too I believe although the inclusiveness of all sides up north may be an issue alright. Then there’s the EU itself. Shouldn’t be a problem finding an adult to talk to.

That leaves the elephant in the room Aguero. What are you getting at?
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I think a proviso was that you would be talking about pro remain Wales/Eng. Scotland/NI too I believe although the inclusiveness of all sides up north may be an issue alright. Then there’s the EU itself. Shouldn’t be a problem finding an adult to talk to.

That leaves the elephant in the room Aguero. What are you getting at?
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I'd hate for these talks to happen now tbh. FF/FG badly lacking in 'statesmen', SF not much better and would rile up the English and the unionists, don't see many good options to represent Ireland. Best of the lot would be Mairead McGuinness but she's on the EU panel now.
Shite options to represent Ireland and even then the British/English/Scottish options make ours look very good.
 
aguero93:20 said:
I'd hate for these talks to happen now tbh. FF/FG badly lacking in 'statesmen', SF not much better and would rile up the English and the unionists, don't see many good options to represent Ireland. Best of the lot would be Mairead McGuinness but she's on the EU panel now.
Shite options to represent Ireland and even then the British/English/Scottish options make ours look very good.
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I wouldn’t disagree with you.
I think I alluded to it in my initial response to Sadds, that getting my head around a scenario that actually involves us, certainly wouldn’t be until the UK/Scotland sort themselves out first in regards to their position with the EU. I think then NI face an existential decision, because they then really would have a stake in the overall UK game. Once they’re involved, we are involved.

Now in the overall planning scenario that I think Sadds is suggesting. A think tank to do possible walk throughs. Planning in advance, dare I say. Yes I do see an issue with who would represent our interests.

I do think that is pie in the sky however and if you were to have any reality it would be more along the lines of the UK/Scotland/NI addressing issues we don’t have a say in first before involving us.

Edit: I read that back to myself and it really is all very hypothetical.
I do think with the state UK is in at the moment we probably are best staying out of it until they get to their next stage of evolution whatever Sadds, as Prez, guides them to.
 
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What’s going on in court in Belfast?
Masked UVF men siting at the back of a court in a murder trial?

I’m watching Nolan Live and it’s a little worrying the rise of paramilitary organisations again, particularly on the Unionist side.

Can any of our Northern mates put context on what is happening and is there anything visible signs of a change in attitudes.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
What’s going on in court in Belfast?
Masked UVF men siting at the back of a court in a murder trial?

I’m watching Nolan Live and it’s a little worrying the rise of paramilitary organisations again, particularly on the Unionist side.

Can any of our Northern mates put context on what is happening and is there anything visible signs of a change in attitudes.
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It's a supergrass case trial mate. They should be arrested or at least made take off masks never mind in court but walking down the street. Following news and 'word on the street ' it's rising in both sides and still just below the water as such. IMO it wouldn't take much to kick off again and both sides getting 'funding' for 'community projects' which is keeping them sweet. I know some unionists/loyalists not happy at the cost and actions at Bobby Storey's funeral. At same time I've friends who lost their mother and couldn't have a proper funeral. Only 8 at wake and had to social distance etc.
 
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