Irish travellers rounded up in Manchester.

[Bigga]

Irish travellers or gypsy is an ethnicity.

As I alluded to earlier though, I suspect the gypsies were misbehaving themselves on the trains and British transport police were informed.

And dispersal orders can stop large groups.

You should already know this.

When you worked as a bouncer you were entitled not to admit people based on them being in a large group. You weren't entitled to deny admittance based on their ethnicity.

When I worked the door you got 'information' on the 'group' if you were experienced. That would be style of clothing, eye contact, body language, a splitting off.

I didn't necessarily stop groups, but I would delay a gathering straight away. One gets to control the outcome that way.

A delayed bunch would either call the others or the others would come out. They'd choose another venue or they'd get a heads up on behaviour if let in. Only once did that go awry and that was with City fans, ironically.

Outcome resolved itself for the most part.

A totally different position to what the police had to deal with.

 

[Bigga]

It doesn't mean they can claim protected characteristics because the police have lawfully enforced a dispersal order.

If another large group of people turned up they'd get the same treatment.

Those people aren't being discriminated against because they are travellers.

So explain the crux of your 'disagreement' with others cos it seems to be from opposing positions which is why you're getting 'push back' as the Yanks say.

 

[Elbow beards]

Viz got it right all those years ago!

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

When I worked the door you got 'information' on the 'group' if you were experienced. That would be style of clothing, eye contact, body language, a splitting off.

I didn't necessarily stop groups, but I would delay a gathering straight away. One gets to control the outcome that way.

A delayed bunch would either call the others or the others would come out. They'd choose another venue or they'd get a heads up on behaviour if let in. Only once did that go awry and that was with City fans, ironically.

Outcome resolved itself for the most part.

A totally different position to what the police had to deal with.

I wasn't saying it was the same situation, I was saying that some of the same rules apply.

Police have more responsibilities and expectations are they stick to the rules more rigidly than bouncers.

I would expect bouncers to not let in a group of young men with sliced back hair, leather belts with flashy buckles, jeans and flashy trainers. But they'd be told it was because of the trainers not because they are gypsies.

 

[lefty goldblatt]

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

So explain the crux of your 'disagreement' with others cos it seems to be from opposing positions which is why you're getting 'push back' as the Yanks say.

It covers a topic that should be discussed in another thread.

 

[calumdown]

Nomadic people tend to behave like that. The berbers are quite similar.

would you mind explaining this in more depth?
edit: the part about berbers i mean

 

[Tuearts right boot]

As long as they're up to date with HMRC, DVLA and the VAT on their ' one off special offer, life time guarantee, drive ways, who cares.

 

[Blue Mist]

What about the Duke of York?

He had 10 thousand men, you can't put all of them on one train.

 

[calumdown]

He had 10 thousand men, you can't put all of them on one train.

there were definitely more than that on the special to york.