Is Cook out of his league?

no fucking chance. the way he has composed himself and what he has said
the last couple of days has shown him to be nothing short of world class!

onwards and upwards!
 
i agree completely, this guy has already proved himself in his field and has held some top positions, we need to remember we are heading in a completely new direction and with a completely new structure. these guys are winners and we should enjoy the ride.

12 months ago i wouldn't have thought we would be standing our ground against clubs like Milan and as Cook says we are 12 weeks into a 10 year project, we have only had 22 days to buy and sell and look at the quality brought in.
 
The guy is top notch, he will look after City and nothing will stand in our way, you just have to be patient.


The transfer window is still open, truly believe we will still pull off a massive coup.




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Cook is really admired in the world of sport and this is just simple KAKA did not want to play for us / and they did not want to sell in this transfer window .

Lots of other world stars to go for ...and its a class team who can spot the world star of tomorrow.
 
sweep said:
Max Woosnams Tash said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/21/kaka-transfer-window

Don't know whether you've seen this article from the Guardian. Gives a proper balanced view of what GC was up against during the Kaka negotiations. Apologies if you have already seen this or it's been posted on another thread


"They bottled it," he says of Milan. "We weren't naive. It was just that the world we entered into was unprofessional. We engaged a lot of professional people to take care of this deal. But it was all a bit too sophisticated for Milan."
Aye, what experience would AC Milan have in transfer negotiations, they're only a football club.
I bet they've only ever bought players like Kaka though,never sell one like him
 
The player never had any intention of coming to City , he's since said as much ......... if he'd been interested he would have made some positive feelings known , but he clearly didn't ......... it would appear , on the face of it , that it was Milan themselves , and the players father , who were doin' most of the pushing for the actual cash deals on offer , not the player himself .


They had more than enough chances to get the player involved if he'd wanted ...... City officials visited Milan four times ........ but if the player isn't interested in the move you're always gonna be bangin' your head on a brick wall , and you could just tell the way that these talks were going ...... no real progress was being made whatsoever.

Cook did his best , he had no reason not too ...... but kaka huggin' that Milan shirt really said it all.
 
Out of his league? No way the man clearly knows what he is doing. He was met i think with firstly a player who was not keen to come here, then a team of mercenary how much men. To put the tin hat on it the political head of state is involved not wanting to lose face or votes , and finally Kaka is a brand and has deals with addidas and armani etc to be sorted out. Cook went as part of a professional delegation and was met by the wheel tappers and shunters to try and sort it all out. Cook will put the interests of adug and the club first it is what he is paid for and i applaud him for it. They thought we would pay anything to get him and i am glad we wouldn't.
 
Seriously, is someone passing magic mushrooms round this forum? First we get 'swap Robbie for John Terry' and now we get, 'Cook is out of his league'???!!

Cook has been involved successfully in the most complex and lucrative negotiations seen in sport never mind football. His credentials are absolutely impeccable and watertight. I know were reeling a bit from the Kaka thing but seriously people...just think what youre saying before you post.

If were going to attract the biggest names in football, which I believe eventually we will, we need the best negotiators and Cooks track record speaks for itself.
 
Oh, and by the way, why doesn’t David Beckham mind his own business! The Kaka deal was said to be structured financially in an almost identical way to Beckham’s at L.A. Galaxy, and nobody batted an eyelid when the world learned that he would be fleecing American Soccer to the tune of £125m over five seasons (nearly £500,000 a week), about the same amount that Kaka might have earned at City. The only difference was the world record transfer fee, oh and the fact that one of the two players has proved that money isn’t his biggest motivator!

Which side of the story do you believe?

Click here to read the full article

In the article Executive Chairman Garry Cook is quoted as saying:

“We are extremely proud that we have a seat at football’s top table. There are many clubs who would have liked to have been in our position trying to bring Kaka here on our terms - and it had to be our terms. Contrary to many an opinion it is harder for us to do business because the expectations are so high. People look at our financial resources as the ticket to success but that is truly not the ticket to success. Of course there is a mixture of disappointment and frustration that the Kaka deal did not go through.

“I think the initial intention from AC Milan was clearly to sell their player and Manchester City’s intention was clearly to bring him here. There are only a few clubs who could even attempt to bring a player like Kaka to their football team. Milan wanted to do the deal and they were ready to do the deal, but they were under political pressure from the owner and the media. You could see it, you could smell it and to be honest they were scared. I think they bottled it, simple as that.

“We chose not to say anything about our interactions with Milan whilst the Italian club chose a very different plan. Interestingly Milan say that Kaka turned us down and what I would say is that it is very difficult to turn down something that you’ve not been offered. We’ve heard everything that has been said in Milan and there’s been a bit of mud-slinging, but we’re going to choose not to get into that. It would have been great to have had Kaka at this football club, the Premier League would have benefitted, football would have benefitted and we were willing to make that investment on rational terms. Unfortunately, the behaviour that they showed was not what we had expected nor had we anticipated.

“We visited Milan four times and the delegation on Monday involved three lawyers that represent the legal counsel for Manchester City football club. It also involved a board member who had flown half way around the world from Abu Dhabi, me and one other senior executive. We were confined to a room, with no food or drink, and we asked some questions of Milan and more importantly we asked some questions of the representatives of the player and they simple could not answer the questions. What they wanted to talk about was; `how much are you going to pay him?’ We chose not to get into that and we didn’t make an offer to the player.

“People perhaps don’t understand the complexity of deals like this. There are all kinds of stages to deals with when it comes to players of the stature of Kaka. One is the transfer fee, the second is the commercial terms and Kaka has seven separate sponsors who all have clauses in their agreement with regard to where he plays football. You have to work through all that before you even get to personal terms. When those start they are related to basics and bonuses and all three stages are complex in their own right. They require legal and financial counsel and they require counsel from executives of the club. In some cases you can phone up a club, ask if a player is for sale, meet with him and his agent put in an offer, agree terms and it can all be done in 24 hours. When you are talking about players of Kaka’s ilk it doesn’t work like that. I think what has disappointed us that the circus that took place around this deal was created by AC Milan.

“That is the disappointing part, but we have always said we will walk away from deals that are not right and we are not anybody’s fool.”
 
From Cook's interview in the guardian (linked earlier in the thread) I get the impression the bloke simply tried to railroad Kaka's dad into analysing Kaka's outside interests BEFORE even discussing the basics.

What they wanted to talk about was; `how much are you going to pay him?’

Well no fucking shit sherlock!
 
sweep said:
From Cook's interview in the guardian (linked earlier in the thread) I get the impression the bloke simply tried to railroad Kaka's dad into analysing Kaka's outside interests BEFORE even discussing the basics.

What they wanted to talk about was; `how much are you going to pay him?’

Well no fucking shit sherlock!

Good point,
 
sweep said:
From Cook's interview in the guardian (linked earlier in the thread) I get the impression the bloke simply tried to railroad Kaka's dad into analysing Kaka's outside interests BEFORE even discussing the basics.

What they wanted to talk about was; `how much are you going to pay him?’

Well no fucking shit sherlock!


quite possibly because the compensation package was intimately linked to image rights? in which case, you could not talk base salary before image rights.

i suspect that City didn't want to spend 100k on him without having use of his image for PR purposes, that makes sense given the owner's ambitions. also, look at Beckham's deal in LA: it's silly money, but most of his compensation is based on using his image for marketing purposes, which means if the MLS aren't making money they're at least offsetting their costs.

while in some ways i'd love it if we'd bring in galacticos and just throw money at them, i don't think the owners or management should be faulted for trying to pursue a sustainable business model.
 

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