is it fair????

[Helmet Cole]

For a typical 'balance'.....

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news/74990/teachers-on-staff-training-dash-to-wedding-party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news- ... ding-party</a>

I'd just take him out mate.

I'd like to think that the parent(s) were actually concerned about their children missing one hour of education at the end of the day, but they are in reality just annoyed that the free creche closed early.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

For a typical 'balance'.....

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news/74990/teachers-on-staff-training-dash-to-wedding-party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news- ... ding-party</a>

I'd just take him out mate.

I'd like to think that the parent(s) were actually concerned about their children missing one hour of education at the end of the day, but they are in reality just annoyed that the free creche closed early.

Yeah I know it was all mock indignation but the point was that if every second of education is important heads (no pun) should have rolled.

For what it's worth teachers in general perhaps along with some parents should look at why so many kids leave school and can@t even read/write.

 

[Helmet Cole]

For a typical 'balance'.....

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news/74990/teachers-on-staff-training-dash-to-wedding-party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news- ... ding-party</a>

I'd just take him out mate.

I'd like to think that the parent(s) were actually concerned about their children missing one hour of education at the end of the day, but they are in reality just annoyed that the free creche closed early.

Yeah I know it was all mock indignation but the point was that if every second of education is important heads (no pun) should have rolled.

For what it's worth teachers in general perhaps along with some parents should look at why so many kids leave school and can@t even read/write.

Because they are thick? Not a fashionable viewpoint I know in this age of syndromes and 'isms', but worth considering.

 

[Howling Wolf]

I'd like to think that the parent(s) were actually concerned about their children missing one hour of education at the end of the day, but they are in reality just annoyed that the free creche closed early.

Yeah I know it was all mock indignation but the point was that if every second of education is important heads (no pun) should have rolled.

For what it's worth teachers in general perhaps along with some parents should look at why so many kids leave school and can@t even read/write.

Because they are thick? Not a fashionable viewpoint I know in this age of syndromes and 'isms', but worth considering.

Do that man kids leave school who can't read and write. There are still a group of people who consistently leave with poor reading and writing and they consistently take there kids out of school funnily enough.

If someone was truly thick as you say and reading and writing is beyond them, then they would not be right for main stream education, and in fact most special schools.

If a child can't read and they do not have a specific learning difficulty related then this is a scandal and the schools involved and social services should be held accountable, rarely happens.

Poor literacy on the other hand is common and yes all teachers and parents need to challenge this. But ask any teacher what has the biggest impact on poor standards is poor fucking attendance.

 

[Shadz69]

Surely a wedding has to be considered a valid excuse,it's not like you chose the dates.Refuse to pay and show the teacher a few pics of your lad at the wedding see if they want to move forward with the fine after that.I doubt it.

maybe if you can show them the invite :)

these rulese were brought in to stop serial holidaymakers going to Benidorm in the cheap season.........fuck the education, its free booze :)

It makes sense, school should be taken seriously

Totally agree about taking school seriously.In Ireland if a child misses more than 21 days(I think) expect a call from a social worker.A wedding is a little different from sitting at the bar watching the kids in the pool all day though.

 

[hilts]

Yeah I know it was all mock indignation but the point was that if every second of education is important heads (no pun) should have rolled.

For what it's worth teachers in general perhaps along with some parents should look at why so many kids leave school and can@t even read/write.

Because they are thick? Not a fashionable viewpoint I know in this age of syndromes and 'isms', but worth considering.

Do that man kids leave school who can't read and write. There are still a group of people who consistently leave with poor reading and writing and they consistently take there kids out of school funnily enough.

If someone was truly thick as you say and reading and writing is beyond them, then they would not be right for main stream education, and in fact most special schools.

If a child can't read and they do not have a specific learning difficulty related then this is a scandal and the schools involved and social services should be held accountable, rarely happens.

Poor literacy on the other hand is common and yes all teachers and parents need to challenge this. But ask any teacher what has the biggest impact on poor standards is poor fucking attendance.

I really hope you are not a teacher

 

[jimharri]

For a typical 'balance'.....

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news/74990/teachers-on-staff-training-dash-to-wedding-party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news- ... ding-party</a>

I'd just take him out mate.

I'd like to think that the parent(s) were actually concerned about their children missing one hour of education at the end of the day, but they are in reality just annoyed that the free creche closed early.

Yeah I know it was all mock indignation but the point was that if every second of education is important heads (no pun) should have rolled.

For what it's worth teachers in general perhaps along with some parents should look at why so many kids leave school and can@t even read/write.

I hope, for your sake, that that is deliberate!

;-)
To the OP; why not go to the wedding, and leave the lad at home (with grandparents/uncle/aunt? At five year old, he'd probably sleep through certainly the reception part of the day (at least) so he wouldn't miss that much by staying at home and attending school with his mates. Just a thought.

 

[Howling Wolf]

Because they are thick? Not a fashionable viewpoint I know in this age of syndromes and 'isms', but worth considering.

Do that man kids leave school who can't read and write. There are still a group of people who consistently leave with poor reading and writing and they consistently take there kids out of school funnily enough.

If someone was truly thick as you say and reading and writing is beyond them, then they would not be right for main stream education, and in fact most special schools.

If a child can't read and they do not have a specific learning difficulty related then this is a scandal and the schools involved and social services should be held accountable, rarely happens.

Poor literacy on the other hand is common and yes all teachers and parents need to challenge this. But ask any teacher what has the biggest impact on poor standards is poor fucking attendance.

I really hope you are not a teacher

Go on enlighten me is it because of spelling / grammar or my view point? I've been in a special high school and never encountered anybody who couldn't read at all, in mainstream some children are weak and well below their reading etc, the reasons or this are complex and the school or teachers would be quite far down the list

 

[117 M34]

Yeah I know it was all mock indignation but the point was that if every second of education is important heads (no pun) should have rolled.

For what it's worth teachers in general perhaps along with some parents should look at why so many kids leave school and can@t even read/write.

Because they are thick? Not a fashionable viewpoint I know in this age of syndromes and 'isms', but worth considering.

Do that man kids leave school who can't read and write. There are still a group of people who consistently leave with poor reading and writing and they consistently take there kids out of school funnily enough.

If someone was truly thick as you say and reading and writing is beyond them, then they would not be right for main stream education, and in fact most special schools.

If a child can't read and they do not have a specific learning difficulty related then this is a scandal and the schools involved and social services should be held accountable, rarely happens.
Poor literacy on the other hand is common and yes all teachers and parents need to challenge this. But ask any teacher what has the biggest impact on poor standards is poor fucking attendance.

Class sizes being too big is by far a bigger problem for teachers than poor attendance.

There is a child in my classs who is very poor at reading/writing/maths/everything else - is that my fault?
What about his 5 siblings who are ALL also very, very weak, most even worse than him, is that the fault of their teachers too?

 

[Howling Wolf]

Ok maybe I should have said things we can realistically control. I agree with you 100% that if class sizes were reduced by half to a maximum of 15 most issues in schools would be sorted out, and in reality is what private education is really paying for, rather than better facilities or quality of teaching.

Unfortunately there would not be enough space and teachers would not take a pay cut, if they tried to replace teachers with even more unqualified teachers, sections of society would not be happy and we would see damaging teacher strikes, as they would see their skills and qualifications undermined.

I have a radical idea that the main pay scale for teachers should be slashed, allowing more teachers in schools. For 2 reasons as mentioned above smaler classes but more importantly a system where a teacher would spend 50% of their working time (that is contracted hours), planning marking etc. much of the stress of teaching is due to the ridiculous workload on top of actually teaching that is done essentially in their own time, never mind performance management.

-- Sat May 25, 2013 1:11 pm --

Because they are thick? Not a fashionable viewpoint I know in this age of syndromes and 'isms', but worth considering.

Do that man kids leave school who can't read and write. There are still a group of people who consistently leave with poor reading and writing and they consistently take there kids out of school funnily enough.

If someone was truly thick as you say and reading and writing is beyond them, then they would not be right for main stream education, and in fact most special schools.

If a child can't read and they do not have a specific learning difficulty related then this is a scandal and the schools involved and social services should be held accountable, rarely happens.
Poor literacy on the other hand is common and yes all teachers and parents need to challenge this. But ask any teacher what has the biggest impact on poor standards is poor fucking attendance.

Class sizes being too big is by far a bigger problem for teachers than poor attendance.

There is a child in my classs who is very poor at reading/writing/maths/everything else - is that my fault?
What about his 5 siblings who are ALL also very, very weak, most even worse than him, is that the fault of their teachers too?

But the children can read or not. The original post was suggesting people leaving education without the ability to read. You are struggling and doing your best, but as I said there will be a multitude of reasons why pupils don't reach their potential that a teacher can't control. I'm really not having a go at teachers.