Is Messi Now Officially the Greatest Footballer in History?

Is Messi the greatest player in football history?

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Watched the official documentary of the 86 world cup this morning (brilliant viewing, pure 80s aesthetic, Michael Kane narrating) and for me Maradona is still the pinnacle


(See the post above saying Maradon doesn’t create like Messi…
Watch the 86 World Cup. He pretty much made every Argentinian goal he didn’t score himself)
Maradona was a great player, but not on the level of Messi.
Why do I say this?
Well Messi has performed CONSISTENTLY over a much longer period.
He hasn't resorted to cheating either as far as I know.
Won more too.
 
Prior to the World Cup I felt that Messi was the better player (same scoring rate as CR7 but twice the number of assists) but Ronaldo had the better career (CL, top-scorer & POTY in multiple leagues).
Now I feel that Messi has surpassed Ronaldo even career-wise as the WC is the ultimate football trophy every kid dreams of winning, and he won it while also winning the Golden Ball.

In terms of overall greatness:
Tier 1: Pele, Messi
Tier 2: Maradona
Tier 3: CR7, Di Stefano, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Neuer, Eusebio
Tier 4: Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo Nazario, Maldini, Platini, Xavi, Buffon, Gerd Muller, Matthaus, Rijkaard, etc.
Then there was Jairzinho and (spits) Best urrgh!
 
Must admit, thought this would be one thread where it’d be hard to shoehorn a mention of Grealish in so Kudos for that! Haha!

Is it obvious I was bored at work?!

Would it be fair to suggest Maradona is a cult hero because of his personality and off-field issues and actually was no better than Gazza?
 
I'm 31 and therefore didn't get the pleasure of watching the likes of Maradona, Pele, Cruyff etc at their best so I can't really comment on those comparisons.

But Messi is by far the best player of my lifetime. He's been the best since he made his debut and he'll be the best until he retires. No doubt his body will carry on making him less effective over full matches but he really does just operate on another level to anyone else.
 
I'm 31 and therefore didn't get the pleasure of watching the likes of Maradona, Pele, Cruyff etc at their best so I can't really comment on those comparisons.

But Messi is by far the best player of my lifetime. He's been the best since he made his debut and he'll be the best until he retires. No doubt his body will carry on making him less effective over full matches but he really does just operate on another level to anyone else.

IMHO he's the best of the era you can remember, and can rightly take his place in the top 3 of himself, real Ronaldo and of course Johan Cruyff.
 
He's one of the best in the modern era, but there have been so many great players which have also been among the best in their eras.

Off the top of my head, Lev Yashin, Bobby Moore, Eusabio, Johan Cruyff, Gerd Muller, Pele, to name a few I've seen in my lifetime, and others are up there as well, but the one for me, without question, is George Best.

It's probably a controversial name on here because of who he played for, but I stand by it and I've been saying it for years. If you think Messi or Ronaldo can jink past players, it's nothing compared to what he could do, and he had everything else as well. He could tackle, head the ball, read the game.

Yes, I've seen plenty of great players over the years, but he tops the lot and it's a shame his name isn't mentioned more often.
 

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