Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

hilts said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
hilts said:
so you really cant grasp the concept that they may have won more trophies if they had kept Mourinho or Ancelotti? or even done the same
You and no one else can prove they would have more trophies, you could argue any manager could have won more trophies with our squad than Mancini has done but its impossible to say.

And that was my whole point, god it's hard work on here
How is that your point? Your criticising Chelseas policy of sacking managers yet there the most successful team in England in terms of trophies in the past 10 years.
 
waspish said:
DD said:
ManCityFC said:
They don't in their heart of hearts, it's just knee jerky stuff born out of frustration. Everybody loves what Mancini has done for us. Watch the Premiership Years 11/12 on Sky and try not to shed a tear. The 6-1, the last game, the mind games. We all just want a return to that kind of form again.

In fairness to them, Mancini does make some very overly devising decisions that do make you wonder how much better a more 'sensible' manager would do things. He over thinks things too much and makes a rod for his own back in times like this.

In their heart of hearts, trust me, we do. Not necessarily now. But the belief amongst some of us is that Mancini is not good enough to take us to the next level.

I love what Shiekh Mansour has done for us, yes. What Mancini has done is nothing more than can be expected from a semi-competent manager who has been given more money to spend than probably any manager in the same time frame in the history of sport.

Your last paragraph is right, and that's one of the many reasons why we need a better manager.

Ask every city supporter who comes out of the Etihad should we sack Mancini I'd guarantee not 1 person would say yes

I'm there every game and i would say yes! He has done all he can imo. He did great at Inter but didn't win the Champions league and was moved on then Mourinho took them to the next level and the same is about to happen at City but probably with Guardiola
 
hilts said:
MSP said:
hilts said:
What i am saying is an average manager or even a poor one can get results if the circumstances are right, i didn't say clubs don't need managers, try engaging your brain a little

I know perfectly what you had said, maybe you should listen your advice too ;)

All teams need tactics no matter how good players they have. All players need manager, possibly good ones.

Managers such as Hiddink,Ancelotti,avram grant just sent those teams out and had to do very little with them, as long as the players were happy all was okay

Yeah, that's why Ancelotti won the league and many others there failed to do it. Because Ancelotti is crap manager who just sent Chelsea players out and had very little with them. Sure. He probably won his Serie A and CL titles on same way.

can you show me where i said Ancelotti was a crap manager? or are you just making things up because you are struggling to understand the point

Managers such as Hiddink,Ancelotti,avram grant just sent those teams out and had to do very little with them, as long as the players were happy all was okay

It's degrading for such quality managers to say that Hiddink and Ancelotti just sent Chelsea players out without doing much about it. These two are one of best managers in last 10-15 years.

I might not know what your point is, not sure you're sure about it, but it doesn't look like great one.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
hilts said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
You and no one else can prove they would have more trophies, you could argue any manager could have won more trophies with our squad than Mancini has done but its impossible to say.

And that was my whole point, god it's hard work on here
How is that your point? Your criticising Chelseas policy of sacking managers yet there the most successful team in England in terms of trophies in the past 10 years.

My point is you cant say if his policy of sacking managers has been successful because we dont know what would have happened if he didn't sack them, to say he has been successful because of this policy is just stupid

if avram grant could get them to a final and di matteo could win it for them this just shows that the players more than any other club i can think of are the main reason for them winning things
 
kippaxchris said:
A turd that took the piss out of our world class GK and took 3 vital points for his team against the Champions

If we were going to sign every average player that has scored a goal against us we'd have to build a new car park at Carrington. Shit happens.
 
hilts said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
hilts said:
And that was my whole point, god it's hard work on here
How is that your point? Your criticising Chelseas policy of sacking managers yet there the most successful team in England in terms of trophies in the past 10 years.

My point is you cant say if his policy of sacking managers has been successful because we dont know what would have happened if he didn't sack them, to say he has been successful because of this policy is just stupid

if avram grant could get them to a final and di matteo could win it for them this just shows that the players more than any other club i can think of are the main reason for them winning things
But then you could equally say had another half decent manager been here instead of Mancini we might have won more, its a stupid argument.
 
MSP said:
hilts said:
MSP said:
I know perfectly what you had said, maybe you should listen your advice too ;)

All teams need tactics no matter how good players they have. All players need manager, possibly good ones.



Yeah, that's why Ancelotti won the league and many others there failed to do it. Because Ancelotti is crap manager who just sent Chelsea players out and had very little with them. Sure. He probably won his Serie A and CL titles on same way.

can you show me where i said Ancelotti was a crap manager? or are you just making things up because you are struggling to understand the point

Managers such as Hiddink,Ancelotti,avram grant just sent those teams out and had to do very little with them, as long as the players were happy all was okay

It's degrading for such quality managers to say that Hiddink and Ancelotti just sent Chelsea players out without doing much about it. These two are one of best managers in last 10-15 years.

I might not know what your point is, not sure you're sure about it, but it doesn't look like great one.

for crying out loud man, say you are ancelotti, you know your stuff, you walk into chelsea see the character of the players, how good they are and think the way they set up plays to their strengths, do you change it ? no you would be stupid to do so

this doesn't make you a bad manager it makes you a sensible one, Ancelotti is a good manager because of what he did at other clubs, you can't really judge him at chelsea
 
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kippaxchris said:
waspish said:
DD said:
In their heart of hearts, trust me, we do. Not necessarily now. But the belief amongst some of us is that Mancini is not good enough to take us to the next level.

I love what Shiekh Mansour has done for us, yes. What Mancini has done is nothing more than can be expected from a semi-competent manager who has been given more money to spend than probably any manager in the same time frame in the history of sport.

Your last paragraph is right, and that's one of the many reasons why we need a better manager.

Ask every city supporter who comes out of the Etihad should we sack Mancini I'd guarantee not 1 person would say yes

I'm there every game and i would say yes! He has done all he can imo. He did great at Inter but didn't win the Champions league and was moved on then Mourinho took them to the next level and the same is about to happen at City but probably with Guardiola
Me and plenty of blues I go to games with would all say yes too
 

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