Is now the time to consider Mancini's tenure at the club

[FanchesterCity]

The way he has been moving defenders around so they do not know which place or where they are playing is totally wrong, and to say that if they are professional players and should be able to play anywhere is also wrong. You need a steady team with steady team positions and is he doesn`t know that already then he isn`t the great manager that we all thought he would be, and if some of his players are loosing confidence in him, then the season doesn`t look good. He either has too buck up and sort out a regular and good defence or loose the league title because europe is already finished.

He went for a 'steady' formation at kick off, and it wasn't working.
He tried to change things around a bit, and it made matters worse - that's just the way it goes sometimes. He then at least reverted, but it was all too late by then.

I don't see what's wrong with a manager trying to get a team to consider a different style of play sometimes. The fact that we haven't adapted to it particularly well unfortunate. But then you're still left with the issue:

Play one way, your 'best' way in every game, and accept that sometimes you'll come across a team where it doesn't work for you.
OR
Have an alternative system, and accept it might cost you points whilst you learn to get to grips with it, but hopefully, you've then got two strings to bow in terms of playing style.

Adaptability is a part of the game, if players can't adapt, then their value is diminished. That's not to say they don't have a role, of course they do, but a fair few players HAVE to be able to adapt not just game to game, but often in the middle of a game too.
Players get injured or sent off... you have to be able to cope.

So in my mind, he's not 'tinkering', he's trying to give us options, but it's coming at a price that fans don't want to pay... since on any given day, the fans will cry "play like last time, when we won" (whilst moaning about Silva looking tired from playing too many games)

 

[DD]

I'm bowing out of this thread, the amount of Mancini fanboys who can't see his flaws is worse than dzekos.

Ciao Mancini fans, il stick to supporting city

plenty of city fans see his flaws, mate, and plenty get baffled by his bizarre and sometimes suicidal tactical decisions. I talk to fans in the pub and ground every week, and these discussions take place all the time.

You have to remember on here you're often being shouted down by little kids, Americans, armchair nu-football 'fans' and sweaty fat shirted up south standers who've never kicked a football in their lives.

It's just football. If you think the manager got things wrong it doesn't make you the enemy in the real world.

I actually think that Bluemoon is some form of parallel existence at times. I said my bit and then I went away because you and I have been down this road before. It all gets abusive if you don't agree that Mancini is better than Mercer.

What's the point? People see what they want to see. At least if people disagree with you in the pub then they have to make a reasoned argument rather than issuing threats from behind a keyboard. As it happens, not many do disagree but I wouldn't expect anyone to believe me here! Fuck 'em!

 

[SWP's back]

I think you would be hard pushed to find many in the pub tomorrow that think we should sack Mancini. Do you disagree with this? Down the pub?

 

[FanchesterCity]

I'm bowing out of this thread, the amount of Mancini fanboys who can't see his flaws is worse than dzekos.

Ciao Mancini fans, il stick to supporting city

plenty of city fans see his flaws, mate, and plenty get baffled by his bizarre and sometimes suicidal tactical decisions. I talk to fans in the pub and ground every week, and these discussions take place all the time.

You have to remember on here you're often being shouted down by little kids, Americans, armchair nu-football 'fans' and sweaty fat shirted up south standers who've never kicked a football in their lives.

It's just football. If you think the manager got things wrong it doesn't make you the enemy in the real world.

I actually think that Bluemoon is some form of parallel existence at times. I said my bit and then I went away because you and I have been down this road before. It all gets abusive if you don't agree that Mancini is better than Mercer.

What's the point? People see what they want to see. At least if people disagree with you in the pub then they have to make a reasoned argument rather than issuing threats from behind a keyboard. As it happens, not many do disagree but I wouldn't expect anyone to believe me here! Fuck 'em!

And that's the key... people can't 'reason' their argument without resorting to extreme examples, insults and knee jerk reactions.

Rather than "is it time for Mancini to go?", surely it would be better to ask "could anybody offer a guaranteed improvement?" Because that's the real question and most sensible contributors could then debate the pros and cons of alternative managers, whilst all accepting there are NO guarantees in this game!

'Time for Mancini to go?" is just provocative and invites trouble.

 

[cyprustavern]

Is it time to consider mike ds tenure on bluemoon ?





hell yes

 

[DD]

I think you would be hard pushed to find many in the pub tomorrow that think we should sack Mancini. Do you disagree with this? Down the pub?

I wouldn't sack him tomorrow. I maybe would at the end of the season. Let's see how it goes.

I think I posted on about Page 65 about this but anyway, no, I wouldn't, but my opinion always has been that a great manager makes a the whole greater than the sum of the parts. With Mancini at the helm, the sum of the parts is greater than the whole. It's those parts that have got us where we are.

I believe we have won two trophies in spite of him rather than because of him. I think we would have won a third last year if it hadn't been for him and the league win would have been wrapped up with a few points to spare.

I don't believe the players are happy playing for him. I think we'd get an extra 25% out of all of them with a manager they were happier with.

That's just my opinion, but I'm not as on my own as a lot of his fans would have you believe.

At the end of the day, people have different opinions despite having the same level of knowledge.

In my experience, those that abuse people for their opinions usually do so because they are insecure about their own and putting the other opinion down reinforces the belief in their own mind that they are right. That's simple psychology.

Shouted at or not, I believe what I believe and I'm not insecure enough about that opinion to feel the need to berate those who don't agree with me. ;)

 

[Pam]

Is it time to consider mike ds tenure on bluemoon ?





hell yes

Who is this mike ds you speak of?

 

[SWP's back]

I've not berated anyone DD. I am as dissappointed as you or anyone else, but so long as we are winning leagues then his job is safe with me.

 

[DD]

I've not berated anyone DD. I am as dissappointed as you or anyone else, but so long as we are winning leagues then his job is safe with me.

You haven't but others have. Absolutely. If he wins it again then he stays and rightfully so. My fear is that he is going to cost us it (as he nearly did last year) but he has earned the right to be given that chance.

 

[Pam]

The way he has been moving defenders around so they do not know which place or where they are playing is totally wrong, and to say that if they are professional players and should be able to play anywhere is also wrong. You need a steady team with steady team positions and is he doesn`t know that already then he isn`t the great manager that we all thought he would be, and if some of his players are loosing confidence in him, then the season doesn`t look good. He either has too buck up and sort out a regular and good defence or loose the league title because europe is already finished.

I'm losing the will to live on here.....

The only reason I'm drawn to this thread is that I keep waiting for Billy Smart to make an appearance, or Coco the Clown.