IS Says Jordanian Pilot Burned Alive

everythingchangesbutblue said:
tonea2003 said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
I think you will find millions of atheists who are homophobic sadly.

even sadder far far more non-athiests
1) How do you know this?
2) Does the numbers matter?
3) Would you like 9 atheists bigots more than 10 religous ones.


But don't we actively try and rid society of the kind of ignorance that makes some atheists bigots?
 
bluemiester said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
tonea2003 said:
even sadder far far more non-athiests
1) How do you know this?
2) Does the numbers matter?
3) Would you like 9 atheists bigots more than 10 religous ones.


But don't we actively try and rid society of the kind of ignorance that makes some atheists bigots?
Which what? makes it ok. I don't understand your post.
 
bluemiester said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
bluemiester said:
But atheism doesn't encourage homophobia.
Which goes to show that religion is not a cause of hate, humans are.

And religion gives them an excuse or justification to express this hate! There is no suggestion among anti religious people that there really is a god and it's him behind the hate and intolerance that manifests from religion. We are aware it's all man made nonsense, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. The fact that man is behind religion is perfect justification to outlaw it.
You are talking nonsense. Is it only religious bigotry that is bad? or is it the only one you condem. It sounds that you hate religion more than the bigotry to me.
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
bluemiester said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
Which goes to show that religion is not a cause of hate, humans are.

And religion gives them an excuse or justification to express this hate! There is no suggestion among anti religious people that there really is a god and it's him behind the hate and intolerance that manifests from religion. We are aware it's all man made nonsense, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. The fact that man is behind religion is perfect justification to outlaw it.
You are talking nonsense. Is it only religious bigotry that is bad? or is it the only one you condem. It sounds that you hate religion more than the bigotry to me.

I really don't understand this petty argument? These wankers have set a young man on fire in a cage and alive. I cannot even comprehend how anyone could do that to another human being. It is beyond my comprehension.

In the name of religion or not they are sub human scum who need wiping out.
 
worsleyweb said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
bluemiester said:
And religion gives them an excuse or justification to express this hate! There is no suggestion among anti religious people that there really is a god and it's him behind the hate and intolerance that manifests from religion. We are aware it's all man made nonsense, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. The fact that man is behind religion is perfect justification to outlaw it.
You are talking nonsense. Is it only religious bigotry that is bad? or is it the only one you condem. It sounds that you hate religion more than the bigotry to me.

I really don't understand this petty argument? These wankers have set a young man on fire in a cage and alive. I cannot even comprehend how anyone could do that to another human being. It is beyond my comprehension.

In the name of religion or not they are sub human scum who need wiping out.
Is the only correct answer.
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
bluemiester said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
Which goes to show that religion is not a cause of hate, humans are.

And religion gives them an excuse or justification to express this hate! There is no suggestion among anti religious people that there really is a god and it's him behind the hate and intolerance that manifests from religion. We are aware it's all man made nonsense, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. The fact that man is behind religion is perfect justification to outlaw it.
You are talking nonsense. Is it only religious bigotry that is bad? or is it the only one you condem. It sounds that you hate religion more than the bigotry to me.

Of course it isn't nonsense. Of course not only religious bigotry is bad and that isn't what is being said. I'm condemning bigotry caused by religion. Smoking isn't the only cause of cancer, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't highlight the fact it does cause cancer.
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
bluemiester said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
1) How do you know this?
2) Does the numbers matter?
3) Would you like 9 atheists bigots more than 10 religous ones.


But don't we actively try and rid society of the kind of ignorance that makes some atheists bigots?
Which what? makes it ok. I don't understand your post.

The point is surely we should do the same for the things that make religous people bigots.
 
bluemiester said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
bluemiester said:
And religion gives them an excuse or justification to express this hate! There is no suggestion among anti religious people that there really is a god and it's him behind the hate and intolerance that manifests from religion. We are aware it's all man made nonsense, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. The fact that man is behind religion is perfect justification to outlaw it.
You are talking nonsense. Is it only religious bigotry that is bad? or is it the only one you condem. It sounds that you hate religion more than the bigotry to me.

Of course it isn't nonsense. Of course not only religious bigotry is bad and that isn't what is being said. I'm condemning bigotry caused by religion. Smoking isn't the only cause of cancer, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't highlight the fact it does cause cancer.
I know. You are blaming religion for trates all humans are capable of. I suggest the biggest cause of homophobia in the world is outdated notions of masculinity, not religion.
 
bluemiester said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
bluemiester said:
But don't we actively try and rid society of the kind of ignorance that makes some atheists bigots?
Which what? makes it ok. I don't understand your post.

The point is surely we should do the same for the things that make religous people bigots.
but surely you must do the same thing for all bigots? irespective of there race,colour or creed.
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
bluemiester said:
everythingchangesbutblue said:
You are talking nonsense. Is it only religious bigotry that is bad? or is it the only one you condem. It sounds that you hate religion more than the bigotry to me.

Of course it isn't nonsense. Of course not only religious bigotry is bad and that isn't what is being said. I'm condemning bigotry caused by religion. Smoking isn't the only cause of cancer, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't highlight the fact it does cause cancer.
I know. You are blaming religion for trates all humans are capable of. I suggest the biggest cause of homophobia in the world is outdated notions of masculinity, not religion.

But you seem to be refusing to acknowledge that religion is responsible for encouraging and/or justifying these traits. You are acting as if bigotry isn't rife in religious texts and that isn't used as justification for horrendous acts of persecution.
 

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