IS Says Jordanian Pilot Burned Alive

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Of course it isn't nonsense. Of course not only religious bigotry is bad and that isn't what is being said. I'm condemning bigotry caused by religion. Smoking isn't the only cause of cancer, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't highlight the fact it does cause cancer.

I know. You are blaming religion for trates all humans are capable of. I suggest the biggest cause of homophobia in the world is outdated notions of masculinity, not religion.

But you seem to be refusing to acknowledge that religion is responsible for encouraging and/or justifying these traits. You are acting as if bigotry isn't rife in religious texts and that isn't used as justification for horrendous acts of persecution.

Im not at all, it clearly is but i do doubt its the biggest cause. I've met many homophobic people over the years and not one of them was religious but all we're dickheads. Oh if anyonee wants just a littlee bit of casual homophobia go have a read of the us sitcom thread.

 

[oakiecokie]

I think you will find millions of atheists who are homophobic sadly.

Well I`m not one of `em.

 

[bluemiester]

I know. You are blaming religion for trates all humans are capable of. I suggest the biggest cause of homophobia in the world is outdated notions of masculinity, not religion.

But you seem to be refusing to acknowledge that religion is responsible for encouraging and/or justifying these traits. You are acting as if bigotry isn't rife in religious texts and that isn't used as justification for horrendous acts of persecution.

Im not at all, it clearly is but i do doubt its the biggest cause. I've met many homophobic people over the years and not one of them was religious but all we're dickheads. Oh if anyonee wants just a littlee bit of casual homophobia go have a read of the us sitcom thread.

But there is no suggestion that religion is the only cause of bigotry. But we are talking about and condemning religious based bigotry. Just because there are other influences that cause or justify bigotry doesn't mean it's acceptable for religion to do so. The argument that non religious people can also be bigots therefore it's unfair to pick on religion is pathetic. Negative influences on the human condition should be roundly condemned.

 

[blueonblue]

Every one "Hates" some kind or another, be they gay, straight, every color of the rainbow, or just f*cking rag bastards in my case, but there is a world of difference between that and setting fire to some poor f*cker,

That takes a special kind of c*nt, the kind that needs wiping off the face of the earth no matter their reason for doing it.

 

[foxy]

Children of Labour..

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

But you seem to be refusing to acknowledge that religion is responsible for encouraging and/or justifying these traits. You are acting as if bigotry isn't rife in religious texts and that isn't used as justification for horrendous acts of persecution.

Im not at all, it clearly is but i do doubt its the biggest cause. I've met many homophobic people over the years and not one of them was religious but all we're dickheads. Oh if anyonee wants just a littlee bit of casual homophobia go have a read of the us sitcom thread.

But there is no suggestion that religion is the only cause of bigotry. But we are talking about and condemning religious based bigotry. Just because there are other influences that cause or justify bigotry doesn't mean it's acceptable for religion to do so. The argument that non religious people can also be bigots therefore it's unfair to pick on religion is pathetic. Negative influences on the human condition should be roundly condemned.

Nobody is saying that and neither we're you, you we're only talking about religion. I simply said it was not solely religion.

 

[East Level 2]

so name me a Christian country that executes gays in the name of the Bible if you struggle with that name me an Islamic country that executes Gays in the name of the Koran

Iran

I hope that is an answer for an Islamic country as Iran has roughly a 1/4 million Christians

According to Wiki the official name of Iran is Islamic Republic of Iran. - However many Christians (and Jews and others) live there.

 

[tonea2003]

I think you will find millions of atheists who are homophobic sadly.

even sadder far far more non-athiests

1) How do you know this?
2) Does the numbers matter?
3) Would you like 9 atheists bigots more than 10 religous ones.

You know the narrative you were peddling

The fact is religious organisations actively promote homophobia, atheism does not

A homophobic person would not have been influenced by atheism but could and haveof been influenced by religious doctrine
That is the difference

One is too many

 

[wayne71]

And religion gives them an excuse or justification to express this hate! There is no suggestion among anti religious people that there really is a god and it's him behind the hate and intolerance that manifests from religion. We are aware it's all man made nonsense, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. The fact that man is behind religion is perfect justification to outlaw it.

You are talking nonsense. Is it only religious bigotry that is bad? or is it the only one you condem. It sounds that you hate religion more than the bigotry to me.

I really don't understand this petty argument? These wankers have set a young man on fire in a cage and alive. I cannot even comprehend how anyone could do that to another human being. It is beyond my comprehension.

In the name of religion or not they are sub human scum who need wiping out.

You do realise that innocent families are subjected to the same fate every day by our bombs?

 

[bluemiester]

Im not at all, it clearly is but i do doubt its the biggest cause. I've met many homophobic people over the years and not one of them was religious but all we're dickheads. Oh if anyonee wants just a littlee bit of casual homophobia go have a read of the us sitcom thread.

But there is no suggestion that religion is the only cause of bigotry. But we are talking about and condemning religious based bigotry. Just because there are other influences that cause or justify bigotry doesn't mean it's acceptable for religion to do so. The argument that non religious people can also be bigots therefore it's unfair to pick on religion is pathetic. Negative influences on the human condition should be roundly condemned.

Nobody is saying that and neither we're you, you we're only talking about religion. I simply said it was not solely religion.

But I still don't see what your issue is. No one said it was solely religion. But people were condemning how religion causes and justifies prejudice. You came along and said there are millions of atheist homophobics. But the point still remain that atheism doesn't encourage or justify bigotry etc, but religion often does. You seem to have a problem with people pointing out that religion can be and is a cause of prejudice. We simply don't need to point out every cause, when highlighting one, especially in the context of this thread!