is stephen hawking correct? there is no heaven

Ducado said:
joe mancini said:
Gelsons Dad said:

And again,it is a bloody fairy story,to keep all the bloody blob in check.
Mp,s and their ilk,ie the establishment,just carry on in their own corrupt way,
but keep telling the uneducated to be good,and you will be rewarded in another life?.

I,ll have my life NOW,thanks.

Never heard an MP say that? And who are you calling uneducated? Are you saying that you would have to be uneducated to beleive in an afterlife or have any type of spirituality. I don't consider myself uneducated and I beleive in an after life

Ducado's right, just because there's no evidence to support an afterlife does not mean you have to be an idiot/uneducated to believe in one. It's very much a personal choice.

Nobody knows 100% for sure, so to ascertain otherwise is somewhat erroneous. Even Hawking has just said this is the way "he regards" it. Far from a fact.

The way Hawking is looking at it is that it's not necessary to have an afterlife, there's no supporting evidence, so therefore it is simply wishful thinking to believe in one. If wishful thinking is your mantra though then I can appreciate that wholly.

I have often found myself wondering if there could be something scientific behind the notion of reincarnation. We see cycles in nature a lot, so it's not ridiculous to believe in a 'soul' cycle. Of course I can't justify this belief, it's almost illogical, but so are many things humans think.
 
PrestwichPeteMcfc said:
"There is no afterlife" remarked Professor Hawking.
To which God replied "enjoy your chair Stephen" ;)

Is that you Mr Hoddle ?
 
pauldominic said:
pauldominic said:
BulgarianPride said:
1/1 does not equal to one?

Edit: how long did it take you to 'solve' the equation?

derive this for me

x=-b plus or minus the root of b squared minus 4ac divided by 2a

We dissected this equation at Uni :)

-- Wed May 18, 2011 8:08 pm --

stony said:
All religious arguments come down to one thing, faith.

No proof of god or heaven just a load of blokes in frocks telling us we must have faith.

No thanks.

Faith is all anyone has because we don't know.

no evidence, just illogical blind faith
thank you very much
there is no debate with you despite everything, you will just revert to "i believe anyway".
you need not post your mathmatical equations anymore(or create a mathmatical equation thread if you wish)
and spend a much more productive time in your garden tending to your bedding plants.

cue unfunny reply about gardening.
 
Hmmmm this is always a tricky one and after years of some pretty fierce rows with Zin about religion issues I tend to avoid these topics like the plague but sh*t I can't resist!

I don't deny science and I don't deny that men like Stephen Hawking know a hell of a lot more than I will ever know. I also agree that in large part that faith is a man made construct that makes us all feel we have a purpose for being and affirms our life rather than letting us all focus on our eventually snuffing it.

Where I get stuck tho is that I believe in ghosts as I've had a few family members who have encountered it and I trust them entirely when they tell me it was real. So that opens another big can of worms and I go round in circles. Is there a messiah and a heaven - I dunno, I mean who does. But I guess if you're a good person it wouldn't matter what you believed in you will always find your way to 'heaven' in any case.

But just in case when u cark it that's you're lot I guess I shud book a holiday in the closest place on earth - the Maldives :)
 

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