Is there anything the tories won't sell?

gordondaviesmoustache said:
Selling the railways was a brainless idea. Has anyone ever seriously suggested selling the roads off ? (other than John Redwood maybe)

It's part of our national infrastructure that is much better administered if it is in central control. I mean what can a private company do with the track that the state can't?

This is entirely different from, for example, BT, which requires the extra innovation and risk taking which is much more innate to private enterprises in order to compete internationally and come up with new ideas and technologies. The railways do not require those characteristics to operate effectively.

a Major fuck up

Do you remember British Rail? They were an absolute abomination. Rail travel is much better nowadays.
 
Bugs Bunny said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Selling the railways was a brainless idea. Has anyone ever seriously suggested selling the roads off ? (other than John Redwood maybe)

It's part of our national infrastructure that is much better administered if it is in central control. I mean what can a private company do with the track that the state can't?

This is entirely different from, for example, BT, which requires the extra innovation and risk taking which is much more innate to private enterprises in order to compete internationally and come up with new ideas and technologies. The railways do not require those characteristics to operate effectively.

a Major fuck up

Do you remember British Rail? They were an absolute abomination. Rail travel is much better nowadays.


Yes I do. But so it should be. Everything has moved on in the last 30 years. It's hardly a ringing endorsement that the trains are better then they were in 1983.

Secondly in my post I was talking about the track, not the rolling stock. A completely different argument.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Bugs Bunny said:
Do you remember British Rail? They were an absolute abomination. Rail travel is much better nowadays.


Yes I do. But so it should be. Everything has moved on in the last 30 years. It's hardly a ringing endorsement that the trains are better then they were in 1983.

Secondly in my post I was talking about the track, not the rolling stock. A completely different argument.

Network rail, are pushing for most renewals where possible to be done with the high output TRT. Why would they take responsibility for renewing/resleeper-reballst, when they can make companies like Balfour Beatty, Babcock, amey or Birse compete for the work, at less than they would spend? They are MAINTAINERS, there is so much maintainence to be scheduled each week, it's much more progressive to let contracters worry about getting yards in the ground, and just looking after it, once it's in.
 
glen quagmire said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Yes I do. But so it should be. Everything has moved on in the last 30 years. It's hardly a ringing endorsement that the trains are better then they were in 1983.

Secondly in my post I was talking about the track, not the rolling stock. A completely different argument.

Network rail, are pushing for most renewals where possible to be done with the high output TRT. Why would they take responsibility for renewing/resleeper-reballst, when they can make companies like Balfour Beatty, Babcock, amey or Birse compete for the work, at less than they would spend? They are MAINTAINERS, there is so much maintainence to be scheduled each week, it's much more progressive to let contracters worry about getting yards in the ground, and just looking after it, once it's in.


Sorry your post is a bit technical for me. I know what a bogey is if that helps.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
glen quagmire said:
Network rail, are pushing for most renewals where possible to be done with the high output TRT. Why would they take responsibility for renewing/resleeper-reballst, when they can make companies like Balfour Beatty, Babcock, amey or Birse compete for the work, at less than they would spend? They are MAINTAINERS, there is so much maintainence to be scheduled each week, it's much more progressive to let contracters worry about getting yards in the ground, and just looking after it, once it's in.


Sorry your post is a bit technical for me. I know what a bogey is if that helps.

He he - you said bogey.
 
Swales lives said:
Okay BB2.0 so you've made yourself look a fucking tool as usual. So instead of answering any points or backing up your Tory rhetoric for reasons why you think it's a good idea to sell our forest parks, you start a new thread about 'Socialism/Liberalism being a mental illness' and your well constructed idea is a copy and paste job of a long winded article which nobody will fucking read anyway. Your dickheadedness knows no bounds, you brainless oaf.


But my dumb chum thats not the case is it? Just because you say or even believe you have slain me, it does not make it tru....

You have posted the same politically jealous sensationalist anti Tory arguments based on your own insecurities and fears-again.

Where is there a shred of evidence that this land will be built on? There is not any. The forests will remain untouched and you know it. When I called you out on the first reply to your thread you realised your anti Conservative rhetoric had been rumbled, you panicked and started calling names.

A lot of you anti Thatcher types are class warriors.....it makes me laugh that the likes of you who probably have a nice cosy little life get upset because maybe a family member or friend were miners/public sector workers or another area that Thatcher rightly crushed as they were inefficient -big deal, move on. My family got rich, fucking rich under Thatcher so we're always going to differ, but I look beyond that and study facts, not emotion.
 
brooklandsblue2.0 said:
Swales lives said:
Okay BB2.0 so you've made yourself look a fucking tool as usual. So instead of answering any points or backing up your Tory rhetoric for reasons why you think it's a good idea to sell our forest parks, you start a new thread about 'Socialism/Liberalism being a mental illness' and your well constructed idea is a copy and paste job of a long winded article which nobody will fucking read anyway. Your dickheadedness knows no bounds, you brainless oaf.


But my dumb chum thats not the case is it? Just because you say or even believe you have slain me, it does not make it tru....

You have posted the same politically jealous sensationalist anti Tory arguments based on your own insecurities and fears-again.

Where is there a shred of evidence that this land will be built on? There is not any. The forests will remain untouched and you know it. When I called you out on the first reply to your thread you realised your anti Conservative rhetoric had been rumbled, you panicked and started calling names.

A lot of you anti Thatcher types are class warriors.....it makes me laugh that the likes of you who probably have a nice cosy little life get upset because maybe a family member or friend were miners/public sector workers or another area that Thatcher rightly crushed as they were inefficient -big deal, move on. My family got rich, fucking rich under Thatcher so we're always going to differ, but I look beyond that and study facts, not emotion.

Oh dear. You can't buy class I'm afraid.
 
brooklandsblue2.0 said:
Swales lives said:
Okay BB2.0 so you've made yourself look a fucking tool as usual. So instead of answering any points or backing up your Tory rhetoric for reasons why you think it's a good idea to sell our forest parks, you start a new thread about 'Socialism/Liberalism being a mental illness' and your well constructed idea is a copy and paste job of a long winded article which nobody will fucking read anyway. Your dickheadedness knows no bounds, you brainless oaf.


But my dumb chum thats not the case is it? Just because you say or even believe you have slain me, it does not make it tru....

You have posted the same politically jealous sensationalist anti Tory arguments based on your own insecurities and fears-again.

Where is there a shred of evidence that this land will be built on? There is not any. The forests will remain untouched and you know it. When I called you out on the first reply to your thread you realised your anti Conservative rhetoric had been rumbled, you panicked and started calling names.

A lot of you anti Thatcher types are class warriors.....it makes me laugh that the likes of you who probably have a nice cosy little life get upset because maybe a family member or friend were miners/public sector workers or another area that Thatcher rightly crushed as they were inefficient -big deal, move on. My family got rich, fucking rich under Thatcher so we're always going to differ, but I look beyond that and study facts, not emotion.

You're still a semi literate **** though.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
brooklandsblue2.0 said:
But my dumb chum thats not the case is it? Just because you say or even believe you have slain me, it does not make it tru....

You have posted the same politically jealous sensationalist anti Tory arguments based on your own insecurities and fears-again.

Where is there a shred of evidence that this land will be built on? There is not any. The forests will remain untouched and you know it. When I called you out on the first reply to your thread you realised your anti Conservative rhetoric had been rumbled, you panicked and started calling names.

A lot of you anti Thatcher types are class warriors.....it makes me laugh that the likes of you who probably have a nice cosy little life get upset because maybe a family member or friend were miners/public sector workers or another area that Thatcher rightly crushed as they were inefficient -big deal, move on. My family got rich, fucking rich under Thatcher so we're always going to differ, but I look beyond that and study facts, not emotion.


dont you ever get fed up of telling everybody on here how much money you and your family have, and how well youve done etc, etc, etc, there are i imagine quite a lot of people who have done well, but the dont feel the need to broadcast it over the internet as if its some badge of honour.
 
Swales lives said:
Now they want to sell our forests, our trees, our land where we walk. Where we get out of the city and feel free from pressure. Is there anything these c*nts won't sell?

Fuck me mate just move to another country and get on with your life
 

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