Isco

[Ray78]

I would be more optimistic if he refused to speak to Marca. It is definitely the end as far as I am concerned. No use slating City or Isco.

 

[Marvin]

Real Madrid President Perez: "Isco to Madrid? There's a chance he'll sign for us, because the player wants to come and Real Madrid wants him"

thing is, if this is correct, then Malaga have said they have accepted real scabdrid's offer, real scabdrid have said Isco wants to play for them, then if both those 2 things have happened why the feck hasn't he signed?

Perez said if Isco signs he would be annonced after Ancelotti has been offiically declared the new Real Madrid manager.

Thats happening later in the week I think.

If.

They are waiting on Isco, as are we.

Isco has not been quoted,other than diplomatic comments about Real Madrid, so just be patient. I doubt we will have long to wait

 

[g180aj]

https://twitter.com/WeAreMadrid10/status/349256557160185857



Florentino Perez: "I have not spoken with Isco, but I know that the player is very excited to come. Same as it makes me."

he said I haven't spoke n to isco

 

[CitizenTID]

T1000 wrote:
You'd better to kakapús Malaga mesetarios and their chupaculos well tied Florentino has this issue because as I give to the City napias silly and useless Ferran Soriano break the bank or spend silly about Gotze Kloop another Golden Boy going to be messing with this issue for decades.

Clear and Isco will want to go to Borussia
In the end it is always the player decides, and preferred to stay in Spain there will be the cold of Manchester, which as they say is the worst city to live in England, by time and the cold.

Off the Malaga forums...

Worst city to live in England? FOOK OFF.

 

[mattyctid]

Part of me thinks that it's all over and we should just give up but the other half is telling me that there is still a lot more to come in this 'saga'. Am I just clutching straws or is anybody else like this?

Its over id say. if this was the other way round and khaldoon said what perez has said we'd all be confident he was ours.

 

[SosaFC]

@TheBigShow1976 - Nader Khalifa - He's just tweeted

Disappointed with my inside source over the Isco deal to City. Sounds like agent fun & games. Quite right City not paying what's been asked.

Not 100% who this guy is .. but if true sounds like issues with agents and fees .. not so much Isco himself.

 

[Akai]

https://twitter.com/WeAreMadrid10/status/349256557160185857



Florentino Perez: "I have not spoken with Isco, but I know that the player is very excited to come. Same as it makes me."

he said I haven't spoke n to isco

he doesn't have to speak to him directly to make a deal..

 

[Joe Hart's Dandruff]

It sounds as if the two boys have done their best to royally fuck this deal up. 1 by leaving a sour taste in Malaga's mouth over the Pellegrini compensation. 2 by penny pinching thinking that Isco would come to us no matter what. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

 

[NipHolmes]

There are things to consider here. Isco having a preference does not mean he has signed anything in writing, it could go from a verbal agreement to a handshake or not even that. From the way things have been reported there is no mention of a pre-contract agreement or anything like that to suggest a deal being done with him, just that there were talks and he responded positively to them.

So as much as there have been discussions to convince him to come there will also have been contract negotiations with him and his agent in the past week or so. As we know from past experience these can take days, maybe even weeks as every fine detail has to be covered and agreed upon. What seems like a positive reaction can change when getting down to nitty gritty details. Basic wage, bonuses, length of contract, yearly triggers in the contract, release clauses, image rights, sponsorship and merchandise requirements these all have to be considered and agreed upon. Before the U21s Madrid were not a noisy factor in this, now they are.

We also have to deal with Malaga. Pellegrini seemed to take a while to be sorted and the same may happen here, it could be the way they want to do business with us. We will have had to have agreed a deal with them, a payment structure and if we have it will be along Madrid's rate. This all takes time and is serious stuff, it's not just "Please make your mind up Isco".

Once we reach the stage of 2 contracts being agreed upon in principle, which I think from the reports sounds like it could only have happened this weekend if at all yet, then Isco has some life and career changing decisions to make. He's a year out from a world cup. Now unless several players ahead of him in the queue get injured then it's unlikely he'll go, so he has to look at 2018, 5 years away, probably the end of his first contract at his new club.

He has a big decision to make. Does he come to City, in England, and risk leaving Spain to prove himself as a first team regular. Does he immerse himself in an entirely different culture, and leave his familiarity of home, maybe his family and definately his friends behind? Let's not ignore the fact that many of his friends are Barca B, Madrid, Ex-Madrid or Castilla players and that will have a large sway in his decision as he will want to feel comfortable where he's living. Yes we have Spanish speakers but how well does Isco know them and are they the same age group? No, not really.

If he comes here he plays regularly but has the above to think about. He also has to think about his career aims, will he, like Silva, be overlooked by Spain for not playing at Madrid or Barca? Will he think that the young lads coming through at those two teams will get preference because they're at the two Spanish giants? He may have to sit on the bench at times in Madrid but he will have strong self belief as he's a talented player so will believe he's good enough to step up there and earn his spot, and Madrid will give him that stage to shine, he'll be at an elite club and at some point in his career he may feel he wants to play at either Barca or Real, and with Barca's policy it will be easier for him to go to Madrid.

If he gets to 1 year left on his contract here is he going to want to go home? If he really wants to play for one of those clubs is it wise moving here? He has an offer on the table now to go there and if he comes here and his stock rises further will the Spanish giants ever be able to agree a deal with us especially as we become an elite club with them? It will be more difficult, so he has to factor in how he wants his career to pan out. Knowing how Txiki made sure Navas was happy to come here by forcing all the negatives about Manchester and England on him and judging his responses, maybe Isco doesn't want that on reflection. Perhaps he wants to have a nice, Spanish lifestyle in the capital playing for one of the top two teams, you can't begrudge him that career and life choice.

He has a very difficult decision, probably the biggest one he'll ever make so no surprise if he takes his time and errs on the cautious side.

I will tell you now. I cannot be arsed reading that.

Hahaha.

Funny post, harsh but I did chuckle.

@JMW

Silva isn't really overlooked, he's simply not as good as Xavi or Iniesta. He plays but in the hole, he did play in Euros quite a lot fwiw.

 

[BlueAnorak]

One thing that does make me nervous is that I'd forgotten we had a bit of a stand off with Malaga over Pellegrini himself. Didn't we force them to pay his outstanding wages?

So they'll take our money if the price is right but they won't do us any favours I suspect. I reckon that's what was behind their owner's quote about preferring him to go to a Spanish club. So I'm wondering if Isco would like to come here but Malaga are playing hard-ball. Even beginning to wonder if Malaga have set the Madrid thing up either to screw us for more money to recoup their losses on Pellegrini or simply just to piss us off.

That's the story from a former workmate in Spain whose family are pretty well connected in Spanish football administration.
Most importantly, Isco does not want to leave Malaga out of pocket. As a fan of Malaga it's more important to him than anything - even going to work with Pellegrini (who he respects). My former workmate goes further and say's that:
1. Pellegrini is not very happy with City over the whole affair - he won't say anything in public and would deny it if challenged but It's certainly not what he was promised.
2. We could have sown the whole thing up the day after the end of the season. But Txiki and Ferran are too concerned penny pinching to do so - first with Pellegrini then with Isco's deal - the Amigos wanted the deal to happen during the transfer window (which officially starts next Monday). The handling has annoyed Isco and his advisors and given Madrid their chance.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just reporting what I've been told.

I should point out that Isco's move to Real is NOT yet a totally done deal.
But Malaga are just a bit pissed with us and would be delighted if Isco went to Real Madrid.