Isco

Isco's Disco-biscuits said:
Marvin said:
Plain Speaking said:
There is only Yaya and Milner who have looked any sort of goal threat from midfield. Barry, Silva and Nasri were all disappointing in this respect.
Isco has a good eye for goal. The more danger we pose from multiple positions the harder it will be to defend against. His speed and creativity should bring the best out of our other players.
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But still he'd be taking a place from Nasri or Milner, and for the moment it wouldn't advance us much further. Signing a striker could because we are deficient there

Isco is a very exciting young player. My only argument is that our midfield is already very strong and we wont have a problem creating chances next season. We need to finish the chances

If we can sign Isco and a striker then that's a fantastic position to be in. If it's one against the other then we'd gain far more from buying a striker.
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Isco pisses on Nasri from a great height already, and he is only 21. He can go past players, play both sort and long killer passers and has an eye for goal. I would gladly replace him for Nasri
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Both Silva & Nasri's game went to pieces at times last season & the lack of other options cost us the title.
 
We may have a deal already lined up for Nasri which will kick in once the Isco one is finalised? If so, the fee received for him would cover Isoc's transfer fee and I will guarantee his wages would be half of what Nasri is on.
 
Marvin said:
Plain Speaking said:
Marvin said:
That's my view as well.

He has great potential, but you can only play 11 players and for the moment our problems are not in midfield. There's a big difference between his performances for the U21s and Malaga which is logical. You'd expect that he'd improve, but the point is if we signed him now, we wouldn't see any immediate benefit as it would mean the loss of Nasri or Milner, and it wouldn't address our goal-scoring problems
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There is only Yaya and Milner who have looked any sort of goal threat from midfield. Barry, Silva and Nasri were all disappointing in this respect.
Isco has a good eye for goal. The more danger we pose from multiple positions the harder it will be to defend against. His speed and creativity should bring the best out of our other players.
Click to expand...
But still he'd be taking a place from Nasri or Milner, and for the moment it wouldn't advance us much further. Signing a striker could because we are deficient there

Isco is a very exciting young player. My only argument is that our midfield is already very strong and we wont have a problem creating chances next season. We need to finish the chances

If we can sign Isco and a striker then that's a fantastic position to be in. If it's one against the other then we'd gain far more from buying a striker.
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I disagree, and this goes back to the thread I started about our three strikers. There aren't more than two or three forwards in the world who could improve upon Carlos, Kun, and Edin. Our problem for the last 18 months has been that our attacking play is predictable, slow, and at times very ponderous. This was down to having players like Silva and Nasri who will rarely beat a man with some skill and some pace, and always look for the killer pass instead.

What a player like Isco provides, as well as a goal scoring threat far greater to Nasri or Silva's, is an ability to a beat a man with skill and pace.
 
Plain Speaking said:
Marvin said:
celf said:
all in place im sure,but do we really need another creative midfielder?

unless a few are gonna be shown the door
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That's my view as well.

He has great potential, but you can only play 11 players and for the moment our problems are not in midfield. There's a big difference between his performances for the U21s and Malaga which is logical. You'd expect that he'd improve, but the point is if we signed him now, we wouldn't see any immediate benefit as it would mean the loss of Nasri or Milner, and it wouldn't address our goal-scoring problems
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There is only Yaya and Milner who have looked any sort of goal threat from midfield. Barry, Silva and Nasri were all disappointing in this respect.
Isco has a good eye for goal. The more danger we pose from multiple positions the harder it will be to defend against. His speed and creativity should bring the best out of our other players.
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I disagree i think the only midfielder who has looked like scoring every game he has played is rodwel, just a shame he didn't play that much. We need thiago and isco as both would add at least 20 goals a season each and take the weight off silva's shoulders and give him more room to play thus creating more chances for the strikers.
 
BillyShears said:
Marvin said:
Plain Speaking said:
There is only Yaya and Milner who have looked any sort of goal threat from midfield. Barry, Silva and Nasri were all disappointing in this respect.
Isco has a good eye for goal. The more danger we pose from multiple positions the harder it will be to defend against. His speed and creativity should bring the best out of our other players.
Click to expand...
But still he'd be taking a place from Nasri or Milner, and for the moment it wouldn't advance us much further. Signing a striker could because we are deficient there

Isco is a very exciting young player. My only argument is that our midfield is already very strong and we wont have a problem creating chances next season. We need to finish the chances

If we can sign Isco and a striker then that's a fantastic position to be in. If it's one against the other then we'd gain far more from buying a striker.
Click to expand...

I disagree, and this goes back to the thread I started about our three strikers. There aren't more than two or three forwards in the world who could improve upon Carlos, Kun, and Edin. Our problem for the last 18 months has been that our attacking play is predictable, slow, and at times very ponderous. This was down to having players like Silva and Nasri who will rarely beat a man with some skill and some pace, and always look for the killer pass instead.

What a player like Isco provides, as well as a goal scoring threat far greater to Nasri or Silva's, is an ability to a beat a man with skill and pace.
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Kun and Dzeko are great strikers, but they don't complement each other. 12 months ago I'd include Carlos in that bracket as well. After the last season, I think Tevez's game has gone. Having two, or three really good strikers does not guarantee goals. Last season was the proof of that.

Injury-free, I think Aguero could get 20 plus League goals, but we need another striker who can cover, or play with him.

I think Isco is being elevated above his current ability. He has played very well in the U21s, but I watched him in La Liga, and apart from a good goal, he was not impressive over the last 2-3 games

Even if you are right about Isco's superior attacking skills, he still isn't a substitute for a striker and i can't see his addition suddenly transforming the Aguero - Dzeko partnership which has been awful
 
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