Isco

dario2739 said:
I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'

I think it comes down to Madrid are, well, Madrid and we are by no means a proven quantity at all when it comes to the european super clubs, Pellegrini will only have so much sway over him, probably an emotional tie but thats it, but when Madrid come calling I think we have to be honest and say most players would be distracted
 
dario2739 said:
I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'



We will never know but Soranio is a clever guy so its doubtful that he doesn't know how to handle Real Madrid.
 
taconinja said:
Floptastic7 said:
Broady_pie1505 said:

Waaaaay too much sense spoken to be in this thread
It's not sense. Our squad has deficiencies behind the starters. It will come back on us if we sit still.


All squads have deficiencies. Ours is no worse than our rivals and in most cases its a hell of a lot better. Buying Isco and Thiago would improve the squad, lets face it they would improve any squad, but not buying them isn't going to weaken what we've already got. If we need a good back up then I'm sure we'll get one.
 
Cobwebcat said:
dario2739 said:
I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'



We will never know but Soranio is a clever guy so its doubtful that he doesn't know how to handle Real Madrid.
Soranio is a clever guy Alledgedly!
 
dario2739 said:
I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'



The lad is spanish and RM are one of the biggest clubs on the planet - he may just of thought oh yes I'll have some of that. When all said and done he is a 21 year old who has lots of talent but unproven in the prem - Chelsea look like they may get Cavani - that is a bigger worry than missing out on ISCO.

Chelsea and Arsenal are improving their team as we are - we finished 10 points behind the rags they only finished 6 behind us. The league next season will be tough. I see us needing a striker more than we need ISCO.
 
dario2739 said:
I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'

There's just too much we don't know about this whole thing. All conjecture and assumptions. Chill ppl. Chill.
 
dario2739 said:
I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'
There are rumours we have a "friendly agreement" with RM not to get into a bidding war; thereby keeping players prices lower to comply with FFP. If true, Malaga will feel cheated, they are not the full competitive value of their best asset. Isco is very sympathetic to Malaga's plight, (as evidenced by his tweets), he has grown up there.
 
onceabluealways said:
dario2739 said:
I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'



The lad is spanish and RM are one of the biggest clubs on the planet - he may just of thought oh yes I'll have some of that. When all said and done he is a 21 year old who has lots of talent but unproven in the prem - Chelsea look like they may get Cavani - that is a bigger worry than missing out on ISCO.

Chelsea and Arsenal are improving their team as we are - we finished 10 points behind the rags they only finished 6 behind us. The league next season will be tough. I see us needing a striker more than we need ISCO.

cannot agree more, tevez is on his way i reckon, cannot have aguero and dzeko as only front two
 
woolleyback blue said:
taconinja said:
Floptastic7 said:
Waaaaay too much sense spoken to be in this thread
It's not sense. Our squad has deficiencies behind the starters. It will come back on us if we sit still.


All squads have deficiencies. Ours is no worse than our rivals and in most cases its a hell of a lot better. Buying Isco and Thiago would improve the squad, lets face it they would improve any squad, but not buying them isn't going to weaken what we've already got. If we need a good back up then I'm sure we'll get one.
Because we can't compete for the Champions League with this squad. It's too thin. And I mean seriously compete. There's no difference going out in a semifinal or the group stage. You're still out, but at the very least we could give it a better run.

And yes I know everyone is going to shout "But... Pellegrini!" I don't buy that. Take our squad and he would still have crashed out last year just like we did. Because our squad is deficient despite people trying very, very hard to always convince themselves otherwise.
 
dario2739 said:
I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'
I've highlighted the reasons I believe should no longer make the transfer seem strange to you.
 
Pigeonho said:
Forzacitizens said:
problem is we'll be labelled as missing out on our top targets again..
How is that a problem? A problem to who?
To future targets to be fair. We're at a point where we either step up to the top of the heap or we settle for being Arsenal.

And no, I don't think this window is going to do either. I do think that if we establish a pattern of always losing out on the top prospects, we have an issue.
 
grunge said:
Forzacitizens said:
I may be being pessimist but if we only sign Fernandinho and Navas I don't see much improvement next season.

? Pace, lots of pace and width. the main thing we were lacking last year so I do see a major improvment, at least in the options available to the manager.

although, we reportedly offered 45m for Carvani and 25m for Isco so thats £70m we have to spend so I cant see it just being Navas and Fernandinho.


I agree to an extent. But without getting ahead of myself too much it is entirely possible Navas could pick up an injury which keeps him out for a month or two. If that were to happen, we're back to where we were last season in an attacking sense, lack of width, little pace etc.

Of course, we could sign any number of players and injuries will still be out of our hands, but I'd like to see someone else with a bit of pace (and ability, obviously) come in. Either another out and out winger, this time for the left, or someone to compliment Silva. In the Isco mould.

Read this morning Napoli have signed Dries Mertens from PSV. Has the potential to be a very good player.



On Isco himself...would people rather we paid 25million for him or picked up someone in the Coutinho mould, as Liverpool did, for less than 10mil? I'm convinced there's very talented players out there we could pick up on the relative cheap. I'd love to see us take that route.
 
Forzacitizens said:
problem is we'll be labelled as missing out on our top targets again..

Why on earth is that a problem, every team loses out on targets? I doubt Khaldoon will lose a seconds sleep if the Daily Mail or The Sun say City miss out.

It just means we need to look at someone else.
 

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