Isco

[vuadabanh000]

we need isco but we wil get misco

 

[CitizenTID]

My reactions throughout this transfer saga:

 

[1kinkladze]

He would never of reached the heights of Martin 'Buster' Phillips anyway....

 

[andrewmswift]

problem is we'll be labelled as missing out on our top targets again..

How is that a problem? A problem to who?

To future targets to be fair. We're at a point where we either step up to the top of the heap or we settle for being Arsenal.

And no, I don't think this window is going to do either. I do think that if we establish a pattern of always losing out on the top prospects, we have an issue.

another league title or a run to the CL semis will help end this problem

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'

I've already said that, from the information I've seen, I believe there's a game going on. We stiffed Malaga over Pellegrini and then go back for their best player. So they want their pound of flesh.

They get Real Madrid involved who outbid us. Now it may be that Isco wasn't Plan A there so they aren't bothered whether they get him or not but Malaga use the situation to get more money out of us. So all the media is designed to put pressure on us to cough up the extra they want but we think it's a bluff and stare them out. Isco knows he's not Plan A at Madrid but makes polite noises anyway to play along with Al-Thani's game. After all Malaga are skint and every penny counts, particularly when someone who has possibly cost them money they could ill afford to lose is doing the buying.

So my theory is that the deal isn't done yet because Isco's happy to come to us (rather than go to Madrid who don't really want him) and Malaga will sell to us but only what they feel is the right price. We feel we're being shystered so are holding out on principle. Someone is going to have to blink very soon and each party thinks it's the other.

To me, that explains this saga because if Madrid wanted him, he was happy to go and the price was agreed then it'd be done and dusted by now. I just hope that we don't spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar and aren't holding out over a couple of million euros or something if we really want him and he wants to come.

 

[pavelsrnicek]

So we have released Kolo, with Tevez allegedly close to a move to Juve, Barry allegedly up for sale and a doubt over Lescott plus rumours of Kolarov leaving and Pantilimon saying he wanted to leave. That's potentially 6 members of our first teams squad (which numbered 25) off this summer and potentially a huge drop of our wage bil.

We have added 2 players and expressed an interest in Isco and Cavani but people think we're done after failing with Isco?

If the right creative kind of player comes up like Isco we'll move for them but other than that we will need a centre forward, a centre back, a left back and a sub keeper.

I would also say that I doubt we would turn down decent offers for Maicon, Garcia and if he was fit Sinclair.

We have space in our squad and no doubt we will fill it.

Finally I would say if, as it appears, Isco has chosen Madrid I can't help thinking (with my City tinted glasses) he has made a huge mistake. The club may be glamorous and have just appointed a very good manager but have recently they have been a bit of a circus. They will no doubt go balls out for Bale next year, I can see Ronaldo staying and as it stands Ozil is a batter player. Ancelotti may keep Kaka so at best Isco will have a season to get ahead of Ozil and Kaka before Bale arrives. And if he wants anymore proof of the craziness of that club he should really have listened to his footballing father.

 

[Smithy34]

DEAL DONE - CITY SIGN CISCO !!! 4 year contract













to run network infrastructure for the office computers - doh

 

[taconinja]

How is that a problem? A problem to who?

To future targets to be fair. We're at a point where we either step up to the top of the heap or we settle for being Arsenal.

And no, I don't think this window is going to do either. I do think that if we establish a pattern of always losing out on the top prospects, we have an issue.

another league title or a run to the CL semis will help end this problem

Possibly. Or it could calcify the problem where we end up doing what some others have done where you paper over deficiencies and then can't really challenge in the future because you've convinced yourself that second tier players are first tier players.

Anyway I'm simply speculating on possibilities. The academy will determine a lot.

 

[dachoosen1]

From what I gather Isco has agreed terms with both Real and us. Its was up to the clubs to agree on fees city had an agreement with Malaga before the U21s most likely hashed out the same time as the Pellegrini deal, but after the 21s Real have come in with a better offer, Malaga cant refuse our bid as it has already been accepted but are pressuring Isco to move to Real so they can get more money meanwhile we seem unwilling to match Reals offer because we have already terms. It is completely up to the player now but he is being pushed towards Real. BTW all of this is guess work but its the only way any of this saga makes sense to me.

 

[andrewmswift]

I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'

I've already said that, from the information I've seen, I believe there's a game going on. We stiffed Malaga over Pellegrini and then go back for their best player. So they want their pound of flesh.

They get Real Madrid involved who outbid us. Now it may be that Isco wasn't Plan A there so they aren't bothered whether they get him or not but Malaga use the situation to get more money out of us. So all the media is designed to put pressure on us to cough up the extra they want but we think it's a bluff and stare them out. Isco knows he's not Plan A at Madrid but makes polite noises anyway to play along with Al-Thani's game. After all Malaga are skint and every penny counts, particularly when someone who has possibly cost them money they could ill afford to lose is doing the buying.

So my theory is that the deal isn't done yet because Isco's happy to come to us (rather than go to Madrid who don't really want him) and Malaga will sell to us but only what they feel is the right price. We feel we're being shystered so are holding out on principle. Someone is going to have to blink very soon and each party thinks it's the other.

To me, that explains this saga because if Madrid wanted him, he was happy to go and the price was agreed then it'd be done and dusted by now. I jsut hope that we don't spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar and aren't holding out over a couple of million euros or something.

malaga's owner has real nerve being pissy we didn't pay pellegrini's compensation considering the man went without pay (as did his players) for how many months last year?

malaga owner is a right prick

 

[Bottomless_Sailor]

I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'

I've already said that, from the information I've seen, I believe there's a game going on. We stiffed Malaga over Pellegrini and then go back for their best player. So they want their pound of flesh.

They get Real Madrid involved who outbid us. Now it may be that Isco wasn't Plan A there so they aren't bothered whether they get him or not but Malaga use the situation to get more money out of us. So all the media is designed to put pressure on us to cough up the extra they want but we think it's a bluff and stare them out. Isco knows he's not Plan A at Madrid but makes polite noises anyway to play along with Al-Thani's game. After all Malaga are skint and every penny counts, particularly when someone who has possibly cost them money they could ill afford to lose is doing the buying.

So my theory is that the deal isn't done yet because Isco's happy to come to us (rather than go to Madrid who don't really want him) and Malaga will sell to us but only what they feel is the right price. We feel we're being shystered so are holding out on principle. Someone is going to have to blink very soon and each party thinks it's the other.

To me, that explains this saga because if Madrid wanted him, he was happy to go and the price was agreed then it'd be done and dusted by now. I jsut hope that we don't spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar and aren't holding out over a couple of million euros or something.

Why would Perez put his neck on the line and say that Isco was almost certainly signing for them if he wasn't 100%? He'll look like the world's biggest fool.

 

[Happy Feet]

Is Tixi is a more expensive version of Marwood ????

 

[Pigeonho]

problem is we'll be labelled as missing out on our top targets again..

How is that a problem? A problem to who?

To future targets to be fair. We're at a point where we either step up to the top of the heap or we settle for being Arsenal.

And no, I don't think this window is going to do either. I do think that if we establish a pattern of always losing out on the top prospects, we have an issue.

Arsenal?!
How many Silva's, Tevez's and Aguero's have they ever managed to sign of late? We are attracting the calibre of players which are above the calibre they've attracted lately, Podolski etc. The problem isn't getting players to come here anymore, the problem is the fact that the Real Madrid's of this world will always turn the head of a player, which is fair enough. They are Real Madrid after all. It's not like we've looked at a player and he's decided to just stay at Malaga, which would be a bit of a kick in the teeth and would highlight a failure to be able to attract such a player. It is the complete opposite of that, as we've lost out, it seems, to one of the biggest clubs in the world. That isn't settling for being an Arsenal!

 

[Manx Blue]

I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'

I've already said that, from the information I've seen, I believe there's a game going on. We stiffed Malaga over Pellegrini and then go back for their best player. So they want their pound of flesh.

They get Real Madrid involved who outbid us. Now it may be that Isco wasn't Plan A there so they aren't bothered whether they get him or not but Malaga use the situation to get more money out of us. So all the media is designed to put pressure on us to cough up the extra they want but we think it's a bluff and stare them out. Isco knows he's not Plan A at Madrid but makes polite noises anyway to play along with Al-Thani's game. After all Malaga are skint and every penny counts, particularly when someone who has possibly cost them money they could ill afford to lose is doing the buying.

So my theory is that the deal isn't done yet because Isco's happy to come to us (rather than go to Madrid who don't really want him) and Malaga will sell to us but only what they feel is the right price. We feel we're being shystered so are holding out on principle. Someone is going to have to blink very soon and each party thinks it's the other.

To me, that explains this saga because if Madrid wanted him, he was happy to go and the price was agreed then it'd be done and dusted by now. I jsut hope that we don't spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar and aren't holding out over a couple of million euros or something.

malaga's owner has real nerve being pissy we didn't pay pellegrini's compensation considering the man went without pay (as did his players) for how many months last year?

malaga owner is a right prick

Probably sounds stupid. Could the same thing happen to a player in the same situation??

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'

I've already said that, from the information I've seen, I believe there's a game going on. We stiffed Malaga over Pellegrini and then go back for their best player. So they want their pound of flesh.

They get Real Madrid involved who outbid us. Now it may be that Isco wasn't Plan A there so they aren't bothered whether they get him or not but Malaga use the situation to get more money out of us. So all the media is designed to put pressure on us to cough up the extra they want but we think it's a bluff and stare them out. Isco knows he's not Plan A at Madrid but makes polite noises anyway to play along with Al-Thani's game. After all Malaga are skint and every penny counts, particularly when someone who has possibly cost them money they could ill afford to lose is doing the buying.

So my theory is that the deal isn't done yet because Isco's happy to come to us (rather than go to Madrid who don't really want him) and Malaga will sell to us but only what they feel is the right price. We feel we're being shystered so are holding out on principle. Someone is going to have to blink very soon and each party thinks it's the other.

To me, that explains this saga because if Madrid wanted him, he was happy to go and the price was agreed then it'd be done and dusted by now. I jsut hope that we don't spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar and aren't holding out over a couple of million euros or something.

malaga's owner has real nerve being pissy we didn't pay pellegrini's compensation considering the man went without pay (as did his players) for how many months last year?

malaga owner is a right prick

If I remember rightly we could get MP for nothing if they didn't pay him by a certain date. So to get compo, Malaga had to pay him or something or lost out in some other way. Perhaps it was us who were the pricks as well?

 

[malkie]

DEAL DONE - CITY SIGN CISCO !!! 4 year contract













to run network infrastructure for the office computers - doh

Fail.

 

[johnmc]

PB - very plausible but would Perez really come out with what he said if that is the case.

 

[metalblue]

I'm bitter? Really? news to me.

No one has ever disregarded what Zidane did in his career because he headbutted someone in the chest, well until you today

Wasn't once though mate, he had a reputation for it. When he was an up and coming footballer he used to do door to door kiss-a-grams after training to make ends meet

The full kit wanker

 

[york away to this!]

...is that private jet on it's way back yet?...

 

[pavelsrnicek]

I just find this whole transfer saga a bit strange - from what we hear Isco agreed to come to us, only for Malaga to approach Real to get them to make a counter bid.
That's fine - buying/selling a player like this is an auction of sorts, with teams bidding until one wins... what I don't get though is, if Real have bettered our bid, why have we not been allowed to counter bid?
Now, we may have done so - but if we have I don't understand Isco's stance in all of this!
He's agreed to come to us, so must have been happy with the package we've offered - so what did Zidane say or promise him to do a complete 180°? Also puzzling is that whatever Real has offered seems to have completely changed his mind, and he can't be swayed... just sound really dubious. You'd think he would take Zidane's promises and come back to Pellegrini and say, 'that's what they've offered, what can you do?'

I've already said that, from the information I've seen, I believe there's a game going on. We stiffed Malaga over Pellegrini and then go back for their best player. So they want their pound of flesh.

They get Real Madrid involved who outbid us. Now it may be that Isco wasn't Plan A there so they aren't bothered whether they get him or not but Malaga use the situation to get more money out of us. So all the media is designed to put pressure on us to cough up the extra they want but we think it's a bluff and stare them out. Isco knows he's not Plan A at Madrid but makes polite noises anyway to play along with Al-Thani's game. After all Malaga are skint and every penny counts, particularly when someone who has possibly cost them money they could ill afford to lose is doing the buying.

So my theory is that the deal isn't done yet because Isco's happy to come to us (rather than go to Madrid who don't really want him) and Malaga will sell to us but only what they feel is the right price. We feel we're being shystered so are holding out on principle. Someone is going to have to blink very soon and each party thinks it's the other.

To me, that explains this saga because if Madrid wanted him, he was happy to go and the price was agreed then it'd be done and dusted by now. I jsut hope that we don't spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar and aren't holding out over a couple of million euros or something.

malaga's owner has real nerve being pissy we didn't pay pellegrini's compensation considering the man went without pay (as did his players) for how many months last year?

malaga owner is a right prick

If all the above is true he's an even bigger pr1ck. The reason he has pulled his money out of Malaga is because he believes that the TV money is unfairly distributed in favour of Barca and Madrid so he is going to send his best player to the team that screwed his own club.