Israel.

[buzzer1]

I've long been an advocate of arming both Isreal and Palestine to the teeth, and letting them go for it. Arguing about which side is right is as pointless as discussing which Neville brother you would like to marry your sister.

On an even footing Helmut then so am i, i just don't like Bullies and unfortunately, Israel as a state,is a Bully.

 

[Newlunar]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUjdrhzURmo[/youtube]

What a beautiful melody. This should be this years Christmas No1.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I'd love to hear you rant at, say, China; one of the worst human rights abusers on the planet. They've occupied Tibet for the last 60 years and done far worse than the Israelis have done on the West Bank. Will they ever give it back to the Tibetans? They openly propr up and politically support even worse regimes like N Korea & Burma. Yet we welcome their leaders with open arms.

Then there's Russia - a mafia controlled country whose leader has killed far more than any Israeli, which murders journalists and has inflicted horrendous cruelties on Chechens. Yet we invited Putin on a state visit in 2003.

Yet all the ire of the liberal and hard left is foicused on Israel, a small and democratic country surrounded by bitter enemies and built on the murder of million Jews less than 70 years ago by a demagogue who blamed them for everything. Seems some things never change.

We, the West aint backing China to the tune of Trillions of taxpayers money year in year out, without a question being asked. Every single leader of Israel since it's Manipulation as a state has been a war criminal or in a Terrorist organisation

The West is most certainly backing China by trade and foreign exchange balances.

And as for terrorists - we seem to have had no great problem with people like Mugabe, Kenyatta, Makarios, McGuiness & Adams.

I'm not defending Israel's treatment of the Palestinians (it's very difficult for a rational human being to do that) but I do object to the one-sided treatment of Israel. Well, it's only full of Jews so it's fair game isn't it?

 

[buzzer1]

We, the West aint backing China to the tune of Trillions of taxpayers money year in year out, without a question being asked. Every single leader of Israel since it's Manipulation as a state has been a war criminal or in a Terrorist organisation [/quote]
The West is most certainly backing China by trade and foreign exchange balances.

And as for terrorists - we seem to have had no great problem with people like Mugabe, Kenyatta, Makarios, McGuiness & Adams.

I'm not defending Israel's treatment of the Palestinians (it's very difficult for a rational human being to do that) but I do object to the one-sided treatment of Israel. Well, it's only full of Jews so it's fair game isn't it?[/quote]

There you go again, did you read what i said earlier? I clearly state that a proportion of Israelis speak up against the regime, they get called self haters all the time so consequently shut down immediately, so please drop the Jew hater portrayal of anybody that questions the goings on in Israel, you sound like the 'said' Authorities that shut down the 'said' Jews.

As for the trade with the disgraceful human rights disaster that is China, i could counter that with 'well at least we are getting something in return' scenario, but i won't.

-- Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:52 pm --

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[Prestwich_Blue]

As usual with your soap-box, demagogic style, you fail to appreciate the difference between people who are proud to be Jewish or Israeli yet still criticise Israel and the people who so obviously hate the fact they are Jewish and feel they have to proclaim their hatred of Israel loud and clear. People like the odious Kaufman who shamelessly does it to pander to his Muslim voters.

 

[buzzer1]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUjdrhzURmo[/youtube]

What a beautiful melody. This should be this years Christmas No1.

I would rather give this a go.


Whatever your into i suppose.

I would rather give this a go.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUk</a>

 

[Newlunar]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUjdrhzURmo[/youtube]

What a beautiful melody. This should be this years Christmas No1.

I would rather give this a go.


Whatever your into i suppose.

I would rather give this a go.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUk</a>

Yeah and look where that got him.
Give peace a chance wouldn't have got his fucking wife's dad out of Burma would it?

 

[buzzer1]

As usual with your soap-box, demagogic style, you fail to appreciate the difference between people who are proud to be Jewish or Israeli yet still criticise Israel and the people who so obviously hate the fact they are Jewish and feel they have to proclaim their hatred of Israel loud and clear. People like the odious Kaufman who shamelessly does it to pander to his Muslim voters.

Me, soapbox? haha, thats a bit rich coming from you i'm afraid.

What the hell are you talking about? you have been shown up as trying to tar me with the Jew hater thing, you have no answer but to start dividing and twisting what i said,ithere are jews and non-jews that speak out regs. the Arabs and their plight! get it right and stop twisting things, what i am saying is the truth, however way you look at it. so with that, i have nothing to say, only peace to all.<br /><br />-- Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:05 am --<br /><br />

I would rather give this a go.


Whatever your into i suppose.

I would rather give this a go.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUk</a>

Yeah and look where that got him.

So peace is'nt the way forward then?
And did you shoot him?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

As usual with your soap-box, demagogic style, you fail to appreciate the difference between people who are proud to be Jewish or Israeli yet still criticise Israel and the people who so obviously hate the fact they are Jewish and feel they have to proclaim their hatred of Israel loud and clear. People like the odious Kaufman who shamelessly does it to pander to his Muslim voters.

Me, soapbox?

You offer nothing but ill-informed prejudice and regurgitated slogans from papers like Socialist Worker. Citizen Smith without the laughs.

 

[mammutly]

As usual with your soap-box, demagogic style, you fail to appreciate the difference between people who are proud to be Jewish or Israeli yet still criticise Israel and the people who so obviously hate the fact they are Jewish and feel they have to proclaim their hatred of Israel loud and clear. People like the odious Kaufman who shamelessly does it to pander to his Muslim voters.

If you have anything other than wounded rhetoric to offer, answer the points raised in my post.

Or are you just joining in the Israeli whitewash?