It's not Pellers..It's not even the team..

[Len Rum]

It also puzzles me how we're still fighting on 4 fronts fella ; -)

LOL.
To be reviewed February 28th.

 

[mancity1]

I think there were about 50k other guys in the stands who would have preferred your idea.

Bayern haven't looked like dropping a point at home this season and conceded 3 goals in 10 home games.

You can score goals for fun and not concede if you have some tactical nous and the players believe in your game plan.

Admittedly they are a far better side than we are but they are also far better managed than we are.

Because we are not managed and have no game plan the players have nothing to believe in.

 

[blueinsa]

One reason I have given Pellers more slack than most is because I think he has too many players that are mentally flawed and I think there have been limits beyond his control on changing the squad as much as it requires. I think change is a comin' big time - I hope so. The only players that I wouldn't consider binning in the summer are Hart and Aguero and maybe KDB.

Officially its out of the bag now that the chase for Pep has been 3/4 years in the making as many of us have said for the last few years on here and no doubt, transfer policy will have been affected by his impending arrival and plans he will have for the club.

Yes we have spent money, mainly on Sterling and KdB whome i both believe to be Pep players. Whether Mangala and Otakendi are is to be seen but i still have faith that Mangala can be a huge player for us as he has all the attributes needed to be a great CB and Otamendi was a great player in la liga.

Pogba is needed this summer as is new full backs, absolute prority.

That said i still think we are good enough if the right mentality is therembut its the lack of it as seen yesterday that lets this side down all to often, coupled with a manager who is obviously stubborn too often.

 

[Seosa]

Injuries is just an excuse, and a poor one considering the apparent talent in the squad & those ready to come up from the academy.

 

[blueinsa]

Bayern haven't looked like dropping a point at home this season and conceded 3 goals in 10 home games.

You can score goals for fun and not concede if you have some tactical nous and the players believe in your game plan.

Admittedly they are a far better side than we are but they are also far better managed than we are.

Because we are not managed and have no game plan the players have nothing to believe in.

Pep demands absolute discipline in the first two thirds of the pitch. Every player has a role to perform and they had better do it or they know they are gone from the side. Once in the final attacking third, then and only then do they get artistic license to create havoc and its that discipline that makes his sides so brilliant.

 

[blinkblue]

Having Sagna and Clichy on the bench yesterday was complete ineptitude. How was it not Pellegrini's fault? How is it not Pellegrini's fault that he continually picks a player that put in no effort whatsoever in Yaya?

 

[CC1]

The injuries hVe played a part but the team selection is equally to blame. My Mrs even questioned why clichy wasn't playing when she saw the team line up and she knows nothing

On the contrary - she seems to know quite a lot

 

[OB1]

One reason I have given Pellers more slack than most is because I think he has too many players that are mentally flawed and I think there have been limits beyond his control on changing the squad as much as it requires. I think change is a comin' big time - I hope so. The only players that I wouldn't consider binning in the summer are Hart and Aguero and maybe KDB.

Officially its out of the bag now that the chase for Pep has been 3/4 years in the making as many of us have said for the last few years on here and no doubt, transfer policy will have been affected by his impending arrival and plans he will have for the club.

Yes we have spent money, mainly on Sterling and KdB whome i both believe to be Pep players. Whether Mangala and Otakendi are is to be seen but i still have faith that Mangala can be a huge player for us as he has all the attributes needed to be a great CB and Otamendi was a great player in la liga.

Pogba is needed this summer as is new full backs, absolute prority.

That said i still think we are good enough if the right mentality is therembut its the lack of it as seen yesterday that lets this side down all to often, coupled with a manager who is obviously stubborn too often.

Pep put a lot of effort into Boateng's development and Mangala seems like an intelligent guy who wants to learn so I can see the possibilty of Manga being our Boateng :~

 

[Len Rum]

I think the injuries to Kevin and Navas has severely reduced our options. This may be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

I wouldn't mind the midfield not helping the defence if they flooded the opposition box when we attacked, but they don't do that either, not even when we were chasing goals yesterday. So many crosses across the goal this season without a blue shirt in sight.

I just hope we win the Cap cup so that Pelli goes with something, at least.

Your second paragraph is spot on.
If you reduce the debate about the lack of our attackers and midfielders not getting back to it's simplest then we should have more men forward - but we don't, because while they're not helping out the defence our attackers are too static and then the build up out of defence and through midfield to attack is too slow and ponderous.

 

[citymad]

Brilliant thread this, some really good points. I think it was Blueusa who said it was a bit of everything. The awful run of injuries, poor tactics, Pellers stubbornness with certain players, players fitness levels and lack of effort have all played a part in a very disappointing season. That said, if we can ditch Yaya play Fernando and Delph in the def two with Ferdandinho behind SAS, get Vinny and Mangala back we might be able to get back on track. Playing Yaya at the moment is killing us and teams are running us ragged in midfield.

 

[blueinsa]

Pep put a lot of effort into Boateng's development and Mangala seems like an intelligent guy who wants to learn so I can see the possibilty of Manga being our Boateng :~

Excuse my spelling right now as im on the phone as ive smashed my laptop screen and auto correct and my fat fingers on a small screen are causing havoc lol.

Otakendi pmsl. Otamendi :-)

 

[manimanc]

The truth is we are fucking shite.
Absolutely awful.
In a nutshell.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Our players needed a rocket up their arses from the touch line and at half time yesterday. Unfortunately our manager only has a sparkler an no matches.

 

[Rolee]

Injuries is just an excuse, and a poor one considering the apparent talent in the squad & those ready to come up from the academy.

It's not an excuse, it's a factor that has to be taken into account when assessing performance. If we were saying all our problems were down to injury that would be just an excuse but we aren't saying that.

 

[blueinsa]

Brilliant thread this, some really good points. I think it was Blueusa who said it was a bit of everything. The awful run of injuries, poor tactics, Pellers stubbornness with certain players, players fitness levels and lack of effort have all played a part in a very disappointing season. That said, if we can ditch Yaya play Fernando and Delph in the def two with Ferdandinho behind SAS, get Vinny and Mangala back we might be able to get back on track. Playing Yaya at the moment is killing us and teams are running us ragged in midfield.

A Simple match up of the opposition from here on in, surrender some possession and play on the counter at times and we will win far more than we lose given our quality.

It goes against what the club has done and Pellegrini but needs must right now. Just get through to the summer and then rebuild and re focus.

 

[shevtheblue]

Injuries do need to be taken into account but some of our performances this season even with a smaller amount of injuries have been a disgrace. Against the top 6 we haven't been competitive and topping that off with losing at home to a team that really shouldn't be anywhere near us is the icing on a shit sandwich of a cake.

 

[Ajm1985]

Unless the players on the pitch are playing with injury, then it is not an excuse for performances like yesterday. The players on that pitch were more than capable of producing a result, and they, and the manager, are responsible for how shite they were.

I would only say Silva, who was playing with an injury, and Fernandinho looked jaded from being over played. The rest either underperformed or were woefully exposed by the system and tactics, or lack thereof. Even Fernandinho looking jaded is down to the fact that he is the midfield.

Injuries play an evident part in not being able to select the optimum starting 11 but we have excellent players, that are being exposed. Kompany would have been caught out and looked shite playing a high line against fast counters, with no cover. It was suicidal.

 

[Cheesy]

Of course injuries have had an effect on us this season but the impact of them is nothing when compared to the ineptitude of the manager.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Unless the players on the pitch are playing with injury, then it is not an excuse for performances like yesterday. The players on that pitch were more than capable of producing a result, and they, and the manager, are responsible for how shite they were.

I would only say Silva, who was playing with an injury, and Fernandinho looked jaded from being over played. The rest either underperformed or were woefully exposed by the system and tactics, or lack thereof. Even Fernandinho looking jaded is down to the fact that he is the midfield.

Injuries play an evident part in not being able to select the optimum starting 11 but we have excellent players, that are being exposed. Kompany would have been caught out and looked shite playing a high line against fast counters, with no cover. It was suicidal.

I think you are spot on & Silva has been carrying an injury & therefore been shit. It's not just affecting his body it's playing on his mind & ruining his game, now he is injured properly. Previously we had several spells where Aguero was carrying an injury & playing shit, only to break down again. This last time, we have got away with it & rather than breaking down, he has got fit. We have seen Kompany come back, walk on & walk off. Negredo said he was used whilst injured & sruggled, Jovetic, I recon there are loads more.

How many of these unfit players have actually played well when played unfit, & how many have actually made the team worse by being ineffective & got injured again ?

How about we just let them get fully fit, then bring them back gradually off the bench, thus having a stronger team on the pitch rather than carrying half fit players as well as Yaya etc ?

 

[uwe rosler 28]

It's the ridiculous injuries that have potentially derailed our season

Never known anything like it

If we had a full strength squad we would be breezing this league

We have constantly had either injuries or players coming back from injury

So much so that we have barely had a settled first 11 since the beginning of the season

Look at Leicester yesterday..they played like a team..a consistent one who have been fortunate not to have any long term set backs on the physio table..coupled with the fact they are not fighting on all fronts for trophies..fit..rested and hungry for it..it doesn't matter how many world class individuals you have in your team..if there is no consistency you will lose as often as you win

It's the elephant in the room that nobody is seemingly acknowledging

We have been desperately unlucky with injury this season

Sorry your wrong a total clueless manager his set up for big games is just woeful he makes good players look bad and makes average opposition against us look world class