It's quiet 10, no apologies! (continued)

[20sbc07]

Thiago silva is far better and has far more experience than Lescott.

Lescott & Kompany is great
T.Silva & Kompany is possibly one of the best partnerships in the world.

 

[decmancity]

T.Silva and Kompany sounds good on paper but there is no guarantee it will work.

I don't think if i was Mancini i would want to this year be splitting up a very solid CB partnership when your defending the PL and will be expected to make inroads in the CL and other competitions.

 

[kunaguero10]

It does make me chuckle the way Serie A clubs still think they're A-list.

They're more deluded than Scousers.

would tevez go to juventus? i see no reason why he would, he's been in england for several years, has many friends at city, has a spot in our squad where he will get plenty of games, playing in one of the best teams in the world, fantastic wages etc... why would he swap this for juve at this stage in his career, when he has already talked about winding down and moving back to argentina?

what i hope will happen is that he sees off his last 2 years of his contract with no more fuss, then he can leave on a free to go back to Boca, having given 5 excellent years to city. I will be very happy if this is the outcome

You consider last season an excellent year for Tevez?

individually and on paper no, but given that he revitalised the team and helped win the PL goes down as an excellent season (making the best of a bad situation), and if we get 2 more good years out of him, 25 goals in each, then i won't hold last season against him

 

[pudge]

Which is why we won't sign him. Aren't you listening?

Yes I am listening but what you are saying is ridiculous. I have no idea if we will sign him...but if we have the chance and the bean counters think it makes sense we would do it because it improves the squad. You are suggesting we wouldn't improve on an area that can be improved on because it is already very good. I agree VK/JL are an excellent partnership. But it is obvious to most that Silva and Kompany would be better and would give Bobby what he wants: a ball playing CB.


-- Jul 12th, '12, 00:08 --

Who says we have a chance, and why would you want to break it up in the first place?

A lot of people think we have a chance, otherwise we wouldn't be discussing it. I would break up any partnership if it could be replaced by a better partnership.

how do you know it would be better

and all this speculation is just that, speculation.

 

[Dj1979]

Not sure which part of that is "why we won't sign him" but if you are suggesting that Bobby wouldn't prefer a Silva/Kompany partnership over a Lescott/Kompany partnership, you have very English tinted glasses on. We have very few players we can actually upgrade; Lescott is one of them.

not on the last 2 years' form we can't, the season kicks off in 5 weeks, mancini will certainly not install a new CB pairing this late on. when he eventually does, the new CB will be bought in the summer and phased in slowly, perhaps not taking a regular CB spot til 6 months later. Bobby has worked tirelessly to create this solid defence, it won't be as simple as putting thiago silva, new to the english game, into the team and expect him to have the same understanding with VK.

To be honest i wouldn't be against keeping with the same cb partnership for this year and try and blood Rekik in the cup games and maybe a few league games before christmas if things are going well decide if a loan move to another prem team or a good standard league elsewhere to give him more experience in first team football. He got very good reviews from his time at portsmouth last year and is a natural left footer. He is tall and is supposed to be both a good defender and comfortable on the ball. Season after that he will be 19 or so and can compete with Lescott and Savic for the place alongside Kompany. To just continually buy new players makes no sense if we have palyers at the club who can possibly make the step up especially if we have Richards and Kolo here already to provide cover in the mean time. This is one of the main reasons i would like Martinez he fits in a few positions. Keep the forward line as is unless somebody expresses a desire to leave or Mancini wants rid of one, to add ibra or rvp will add problems with everyone having an argument as to why they should be no.1 striker and i can't see any being happy going from main striker at the previous club to being a back up at ours. Midfield could do with a few especially if de jong doesn't sign a contract i can see him leaving again Martinez seems a more than suitable replacement who adds more with passing and ability to take the ball forward than we will lose in de jong's ability to shield the defense. A winger would be my main worry but again if we aren't going to play with them most games is there really a point in spending big money on someone to sit on the bench most of the time only to make an impact when we are struggling to break a team down? how happy would a 20-30 mil pound player be to play the role of impact sub? Like i said earlier in this thread i would rather spend big on a Neymar/Moura signing if we will use them maybe even Munian (spl) but i don't fancy our chances of taking two of bilbao's stars in one window but if we wont use them as part of the first team ie 25-30 games a season then i think cheapere alternatives are the order of the day. The young guy at hereveen who had most assists in the dutch league looked an excellent crosser of the ball with plenty of pace and wouldn't cost the world or expect an automatic starting place and is maybe somebody who could work well with dzeko and mario who is a decent header of the ball along with kolarov who can put in a decent delivery. Anything other than this isn't really required if we aren't going to change system for the most part, we can't have world class players sitting waiting for a doomsday injury senario like some say with the but what if aguero gets injured and so does dzeko at the same time and tevez is up to his old tricks and balo takes a strap.

 

[taconinja]

not on the last 2 years' form we can't, the season kicks off in 5 weeks, mancini will certainly not install a new CB pairing this late on. when he eventually does, the new CB will be bought in the summer and phased in slowly, perhaps not taking a regular CB spot til 6 months later. Bobby has worked tirelessly to create this solid defence, it won't be as simple as putting thiago silva, new to the english game, into the team and expect him to have the same understanding with VK.

I think it is insane to think that Silva would come to a team and not slot directly into the starting lineup. But that is the beauty of opinions.

Which is why we won't sign him. Aren't you listening?

I don't think the manager is nearly as convinced as you seeing as we keep getting linked to CBs.

 

[pudge]

I think it is insane to think that Silva would come to a team and not slot directly into the starting lineup. But that is the beauty of opinions.

Which is why we won't sign him. Aren't you listening?

I don't think the manager is nearly as convinced as you seeing as we keep getting linked to CBs.

You're not listening either it seems.

I can't see us signing a world class/starting CB, only cover for Kompany and Lescott

 

[blue wang]

Not sure which part of that is "why we won't sign him" but if you are suggesting that Bobby wouldn't prefer a Silva/Kompany partnership over a Lescott/Kompany partnership, you have very English tinted glasses on. We have very few players we can actually upgrade; Lescott is one of them.

not on the last 2 years' form we can't, the season kicks off in 5 weeks, mancini will certainly not install a new CB pairing this late on. when he eventually does, the new CB will be bought in the summer and phased in slowly, perhaps not taking a regular CB spot til 6 months later. Bobby has worked tirelessly to create this solid defence, it won't be as simple as putting thiago silva, new to the english game, into the team and expect him to have the same understanding with VK.

To be honest i wouldn't be against keeping with the same cb partnership for this year and try and blood Rekik in the cup games and maybe a few league games before christmas if things are going well decide if a loan move to another prem team or a good standard league elsewhere to give him more experience in first team football. He got very good reviews from his time at portsmouth last year and is a natural left footer. He is tall and is supposed to be both a good defender and comfortable on the ball. Season after that he will be 19 or so and can compete with Lescott and Savic for the place alongside Kompany. To just continually buy new players makes no sense if we have palyers at the club who can possibly make the step up especially if we have Richards and Kolo here already to provide cover in the mean time. This is one of the main reasons i would like Martinez he fits in a few positions. Keep the forward line as is unless somebody expresses a desire to leave or Mancini wants rid of one, to add ibra or rvp will add problems with everyone having an argument as to why they should be no.1 striker and i can't see any being happy going from main striker at the previous club to being a back up at ours. Midfield could do with a few especially if de jong doesn't sign a contract i can see him leaving again Martinez seems a more than suitable replacement who adds more with passing and ability to take the ball forward than we will lose in de jong's ability to shield the defense. A winger would be my main worry but again if we aren't going to play with them most games is there really a point in spending big money on someone to sit on the bench most of the time only to make an impact when we are struggling to break a team down? how happy would a 20-30 mil pound player be to play the role of impact sub? Like i said earlier in this thread i would rather spend big on a Neymar/Moura signing if we will use them maybe even Munian (spl) but i don't fancy our chances of taking two of bilbao's stars in one window but if we wont use them as part of the first team ie 25-30 games a season then i think cheapere alternatives are the order of the day. The young guy at hereveen who had most assists in the dutch league looked an excellent crosser of the ball with plenty of pace and wouldn't cost the world or expect an automatic starting place and is maybe somebody who could work well with dzeko and mario who is a decent header of the ball along with kolarov who can put in a decent delivery. Anything other than this isn't really required if we aren't going to change system for the most part, we can't have world class players sitting waiting for a doomsday injury senario like some say with the but what if aguero gets injured and so does dzeko at the same time and tevez is up to his old tricks and balo takes a strap.

Bang on the money!! Like the way think. I suspect it how our owners see it!
Its like some peoplle don't pay attention or can't remove themselves from the siituation and too emotional. Thus can't make a balanced or reasonable decision.

@.Mansoors toe ropes. You are 100 percent correct we would phase T.silva over 6 months just like d.silva. The people that think we are not looking for ball playing CH are blind or delududed. Why do they think Kolo started ahead of lescott against bayern.

 

[Darkhorse]

not on the last 2 years' form we can't, the season kicks off in 5 weeks, mancini will certainly not install a new CB pairing this late on. when he eventually does, the new CB will be bought in the summer and phased in slowly, perhaps not taking a regular CB spot til 6 months later. Bobby has worked tirelessly to create this solid defence, it won't be as simple as putting thiago silva, new to the english game, into the team and expect him to have the same understanding with VK.

I think it is insane to think that Silva would come to a team and not slot directly into the starting lineup. But that is the beauty of opinions.

Which is why we won't sign him. Aren't you listening?

-- Jul 12th, '12, 00:08 --

Best defensive partnership in the league 2 years running. You don't just break that up.

Generally true. But if you have a chance to sign one of the best 2-3 CBs in the world you break up the partnership in a heartbeat.

Who says we have a chance, and why would you want to break it up in the first place?

?

Which is why we won't sign him. Aren't you listening?

Yes I am listening but what you are saying is ridiculous. I have no idea if we will sign him...but if we have the chance and the bean counters think it makes sense we would do it because it improves the squad. You are suggesting we wouldn't improve on an area that can be improved on because it is already very good. I agree VK/JL are an excellent partnership. But it is obvious to most that Silva and Kompany would be better and would give Bobby what he wants: a ball playing CB.


-- Jul 12th, '12, 00:08 --

A lot of people think we have a chance, otherwise we wouldn't be discussing it. I would break up any partnership if it could be replaced by a better partnership.

how do you know it would be better

and all this speculation is just that, speculation.

Ok. Well I hope your using the same logic with Van Persie and your against signing him for the same reason. In fact I hope your against us signing any players all together, because by your reasoning we just don't know whether they will improve the team, anything to the contrary would be speculation. I just don't want you to be a hypocrite.

If your going to apply false logic then at least apply it consistently.

 

[SalfordCityBlue]

Thiago would immediately be the best centre half at the club...

Vincent runs him close and if he keeps improving like he has will be better soon, but Lescott is nowhere near his level, although still good enough to play a large role.

Those three would be the envy of world football, and barring cruel luck would see us set for the next four years.

With Savic and Rekik being brought through in the background. Too good.