It's Quiet 10 no apologies! (continued)

[tilbz]

Both players can make it, but not at City.

This they are not good enough for the champions of England CD needed and I would like some young cover for silva as he seemed to tire at the end of last season. Whether that was to do with his ankle problem I don't know but just think he could be rested more to keep him fresh.

 

[Marvin]

Savic just needs confidence. Unfortunately the City crowd have already made their judgement. Not very impressed with the way Mancini keeps bringing him into difficult games which just erode his already fragile confidence

You have to build young players confidence up. Now Savic just looks like a dear caught in the headlights. He's got a lot of ability in my view. Likewise Boyata.

 

[MadchesterCity]

for me, Kolo is decent cover/replacement for lescott

however i think that is the problem, i dont think he wants to be used in that role...he wants to start most games and that is why he wants out

id rather have boyata than savic....he is just a disaster waiting to happen....Rm needs to admit to defeat/mistake with him; he is never going to be good enough!!!!

Savic is better than Boyata mate, I actually think Savic can and will improve into a good player

wow. you've had a few too many.

Simon/Bill
I do see potential in him, composed on the ball, technically strong, good passer, powerful in the air, good physical strength and decent pace.

He has made mistakes but if he is intelligent and I believe he has good mental strength then then he will improve.

He needs to be determined, work hard and listen to the boss, if he can do that and make the most of the opportunities that he gets and cut out the mistakes then he will progress.

I think he needs confidence though and has looked good at right back, the fans need to get behind our young players as theye are the future of our club.

I hope he proves everyone wrong, he may not though!
Only time will tell

 

[Goosebot]

Both players can make it, but not at City.

This they are not good enough for the champions of England CD needed and I would like some young cover for silva as he seemed to tire at the end of last season. Whether that was to do with his ankle problem I don't know but just think he could be rested more to keep him fresh.

agreed he needs to be kept fresh, maybe if we carry on with the 352 a bit more then him and sami will split game, keep them both fresh and also create more competition between them rather than have dave expect to start every game.

still, i like seeing them both on the pitch.

 

[Del_Bosque]

Both players can make it, but not at City.

Neither will ever be good enough for a top 6 side

 

[Rammy Blue]

Savic just needs confidence. Unfortunately the City crowd have already made their judgement. Not very impressed with the way Mancini keeps bringing him into difficult games which just erode his already fragile confidence

You have to build young players confidence up. Now Savic just looks like a dear caught in the headlights. He's got a lot of ability in my view. Likewise Boyata.

He won't regain that confidence at City though. He needs a full season out on loan where he will play every week.

 

[simon23]

Savic just needs confidence. Unfortunately the City crowd have already made their judgement. Not very impressed with the way Mancini keeps bringing him into difficult games which just erode his already fragile confidence

You have to build young players confidence up. Now Savic just looks like a dear caught in the headlights. He's got a lot of ability in my view. Likewise Boyata.

Sorry but the crowd has nothing to do with it......he simply does not have the composure or ability to play at the highest level....his tackling is weak, he is indecisive, he is not strong enough and posionanlly lacks awareness as well......

we cannt afford to wait for him to develop....central defense is one of the most improtant positions on the pitch......you can inexperienced strikers who ou can give time to develop by putting them on for 20-30 mins a game....putting them in and out of the team etc but you cannt do this with central defenders.......you will lose improtant games that way

savic just isnt good enough

 

[g180aj]

Nah mate, everyone's well aware that he's a big bonus. However we were definitely intending to spend over 30mil on Hazard so once that fell through I think most people thought and expected that we would still make at least 1 significant signing. De Rossi would have been 30mil or so as well.

Just seems our strategy has been a bit strange this window, meanwhile Chelsea just keep on spending and once they've signed a striker as well will be up at the 100mil level.

I get you point mate, but I believe if Hazard came, Nasri would of been shipped to the bench or out on loan, DDR would of replaced Nigel, if Edin was to go he would be replaced, these are players replaced by choice not necessity like Chelsea. There are no gaps at city just cover and some room for improvement in certain positions. If we can't fix these issues to our desire why bother.

We have 3 distinct weaknesses in the squad imo.

Winger with pace
Deep lying midfielder with decent passing ability
Top quality central defender

We have shown interest or bid on Hazard, De Rossi and Thiago Silva - all players of the top grade in those respective positions, each would have cost approx 30mil.

We may well end up with Sinclair, Rodwell and maybe Godin to cover those three positions.

See where I'm coming from?

so basicly we need by the end of the window to get rid off kolo, aj and rsc then bring in isco, ganso, sahin or mvilla and nastastic, sounds good to me lol

 

[Mad 4 It]

Savic just needs confidence. Unfortunately the City crowd have already made their judgement. Not very impressed with the way Mancini keeps bringing him into difficult games which just erode his already fragile confidence

You have to build young players confidence up. Now Savic just looks like a dear caught in the headlights. He's got a lot of ability in my view. Likewise Boyata.

Sorry but the crowd has nothing to do with it......he simply does not have the composure or ability to play at the highest level....his tackling is weak, he is indecisive, he is not strong enough and posionanlly lacks awareness as well......

we cannt afford to wait for him to develop....central defense is one of the most improtant positions on the pitch......you can inexperienced strikers who ou can give time to develop by putting them on for 20-30 mins a game....putting them in and out of the team etc but you cannt do this with central defenders.......you will lose improtant games that way

savic just isnt good enough

He's had more chances than Boyata, iand Boyata was better when he played.

 

[Rammyblues]

If the Champions League squad is to be the same as the Prem Squad. Then players need to be sold first before any players come in.

If Mancini decides there is one player who should miss out on playing champions league football, one more addition can be made without any sales.

The four players at risk seem to be

NDJ (Last year of contract)
AJ (Wants regular football)
Kolo (Seems to be up to Kolo whether leaves or not)
Savic (Hasn't impressed so far but is a Mancini signing)

NDJ - New contract available but hasn't signed do we cash in or not
AJ Lot been said about lifestyle and consistency again seems to be up to player to leave or not

Kolo - Mancini put his nose out of joint having played him all pre season but dropped him for Savic in community shield

Savic - In his favour a Mancini signing could possibly go out on loan but cannot see him being sold. (He may be the player to miss out on CL football if Mancini decides he wants a signing but cannot shift any of the other options.


It seems to me to be fanciful that more than one of the above will go bearing in mind we only have 8 days left. The suggestion that we are going to sign two or three players is becoming more and more remote by the day given the chances of signing players in such difficult circumstances.

Conclusion

Sinclair could be signed on the last day if Mancini opts for having a different CL squad from Prem squad but that would mean both quotas of squad players filled and the most at risk from being excluded from CL football are either Savic or KOlo.

Other than that it is one out one in or vice versa and before any start it would be better to sell rather than buy and have a player left on the books till January who can only play in COC and FA cup.

The rest of the speculation on this thread is pure fanciful IMO unless it is to replace an outgoing player. IMO Dzeko won't leave and Cavani won't be signed, there is no way we are going to start the season with five strikers.

If you don't believe me check out the players we have and using the rules put both CL squad and Prem squads together yourselves, don't forget CL rules are slightly different to prem rules.