andyhinch
Well-Known Member
Ray78 said:
A rational post and what's it doing on here
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
It's Quiet 10 no apologies! (continued)
- Thread starter NipHolmes
- Start date
A rational post and what's it doing on here
andyhinch said:Ray78 said:Rammyblues said:IMO the reasons why this transfer window hasn't gone as smoothly as it should and reasons behind the NDJ sale.
Main reasons
1) 25 man squad rules
2) A need to reduce wages with FFPR
3) A need to freshen up the squad without destroying it.
I have said enough about 25 man squad rules see my other posts.
FFPR - Ade RSC and Bridge to name but three. Done.
Freshening up the squad without wrecking it or planning for the future.
Three problem areas.
1) Tevezgate
2) AJ needing more games to get into England squad, missed out on Euros
3) NDJ not signing contract offered.
IMO
RVP lined up as direct replacement for Tevez once it was established he wasn't leaving end of story.
AJ's lifestyle and the fact wouldn't change or listen to Mancini, sold for a profit and replaced with a younger player probably on less wages Sinclair.
Rodwell was signed to replace NDJ club knew he hadn't signed an extension and from that minute on he became a liability. Yes he would have been professional in doing his job but he was only good at defensive role. Mancini has coveted Rodwell for a couple of seasons and not only could he do NDJs role but he could do other roles as well. Only 20 and would probably be on less wages. As for club policy about sustainability it also means Razak will have the chance of coming through from the academy to the first team to join him as and when Barry leaves.
In terms of Savic in the defence after the Charity Shield Mancini hooked him off at half time I believe he had seen enough to decide needed a direct replacement which is Nastivic. Younger and probably more talented.
Finally the Maicon deal, I reckon Mancini asked for a player DDR/Maicon, DDR too expensive but Maicon available. Only trouble being, a player had to make way for him. Tried to get rid of Kolo but Kolo dug his heals in and decided to stay from that moment the only other player who could leave was NDJ. I reckon Mancini told NDJ he could either leave or not take part in CL, given time was of the essence NDJ contacted AC Milan and we had to sell at a ridiculously low price to get Mancini's player.
The above could be bollocks but it is how I see it.
A rational post and what's it doing on here
Must of got lost AH.
Ray78 said:Rammyblues said:IMO the reasons why this transfer window hasn't gone as smoothly as it should and reasons behind the NDJ sale.
Main reasons
1) 25 man squad rules
2) A need to reduce wages with FFPR
3) A need to freshen up the squad without destroying it.
I have said enough about 25 man squad rules see my other posts.
FFPR - Ade RSC and Bridge to name but three. Done.
Freshening up the squad without wrecking it or planning for the future.
Three problem areas.
1) Tevezgate
2) AJ needing more games to get into England squad, missed out on Euros
3) NDJ not signing contract offered.
IMO
RVP lined up as direct replacement for Tevez once it was established he wasn't leaving end of story.
AJ's lifestyle and the fact wouldn't change or listen to Mancini, sold for a profit and replaced with a younger player probably on less wages Sinclair.
Rodwell was signed to replace NDJ club knew he hadn't signed an extension and from that minute on he became a liability. Yes he would have been professional in doing his job but he was only good at defensive role. Mancini has coveted Rodwell for a couple of seasons and not only could he do NDJs role but he could do other roles as well. Only 20 and would probably be on less wages. As for club policy about sustainability it also means Razak will have the chance of coming through from the academy to the first team to join him as and when Barry leaves.
In terms of Savic in the defence after the Charity Shield Mancini hooked him off at half time I believe he had seen enough to decide needed a direct replacement which is Nastivic. Younger and probably more talented.
Finally the Maicon deal, I reckon Mancini asked for a player DDR/Maicon, DDR too expensive but Maicon available. Only trouble being, a player had to make way for him. Tried to get rid of Kolo but Kolo dug his heals in and decided to stay from that moment the only other player who could leave was NDJ. I reckon Mancini told NDJ he could either leave or not take part in CL, given time was of the essence NDJ contacted AC Milan and we had to sell at a ridiculously low price to get Mancini's player.
The above could be bollocks but it is how I see it.
A rational post and I couldn't put it better myself
Terrible bit of business if he has signed Rodwell to exclusively replace Nigel, given Rodwell's injury record. There surely mist be another central midfielder on his way
sam-caddick said:Ray78 said:Rammyblues said:IMO the reasons why this transfer window hasn't gone as smoothly as it should and reasons behind the NDJ sale.
Main reasons
1) 25 man squad rules
2) A need to reduce wages with FFPR
3) A need to freshen up the squad without destroying it.
I have said enough about 25 man squad rules see my other posts.
FFPR - Ade RSC and Bridge to name but three. Done.
Freshening up the squad without wrecking it or planning for the future.
Three problem areas.
1) Tevezgate
2) AJ needing more games to get into England squad, missed out on Euros
3) NDJ not signing contract offered.
IMO
RVP lined up as direct replacement for Tevez once it was established he wasn't leaving end of story.
AJ's lifestyle and the fact wouldn't change or listen to Mancini, sold for a profit and replaced with a younger player probably on less wages Sinclair.
Rodwell was signed to replace NDJ club knew he hadn't signed an extension and from that minute on he became a liability. Yes he would have been professional in doing his job but he was only good at defensive role. Mancini has coveted Rodwell for a couple of seasons and not only could he do NDJs role but he could do other roles as well. Only 20 and would probably be on less wages. As for club policy about sustainability it also means Razak will have the chance of coming through from the academy to the first team to join him as and when Barry leaves.
In terms of Savic in the defence after the Charity Shield Mancini hooked him off at half time I believe he had seen enough to decide needed a direct replacement which is Nastivic. Younger and probably more talented.
Finally the Maicon deal, I reckon Mancini asked for a player DDR/Maicon, DDR too expensive but Maicon available. Only trouble being, a player had to make way for him. Tried to get rid of Kolo but Kolo dug his heals in and decided to stay from that moment the only other player who could leave was NDJ. I reckon Mancini told NDJ he could either leave or not take part in CL, given time was of the essence NDJ contacted AC Milan and we had to sell at a ridiculously low price to get Mancini's player.
The above could be bollocks but it is how I see it.
A rational post and I couldn't put it better myself
Can't see us going for Maicon because we might not get De Rossi.
One is a right back the other is a defensive midfielder.
Ah but one of our current right backs can play as a defensive midfielder. I dont agree with it but it makes sense.
sam-caddick
Well-Known Member
Martyn said:sam-caddick said:Ray78 said:A rational post and I couldn't put it better myself
Can't see us going for Maicon because we might not get De Rossi.
One is a right back the other is a defensive midfielder.
Ah but one of our current right backs can play as a defensive midfielder. I dont agree with it but it makes sense.
Hmm..Yes but we should be buying a first team world class defensive midfield as we are in desperate need for one, not make shifting a right back into a midfielder.
If we lose either of Yaya or Barry, even worse both then we are screwed.
Trigger
Well-Known Member
Really do not think this is what Mancini will be happy with - if this transfer window ends like this!
Blootoof
Well-Known Member
Any chance we can have a 10 line quote rule?
Posts with more than ten lines should not be quoted
signed
my fucked mouse wheel
Posts with more than ten lines should not be quoted
signed
my fucked mouse wheel
bluemonkey71
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 26 Jan 2009
- Messages
- 7,164
Good post Rammy. Good summation
i8rags
Well-Known Member
Fuck off with this rational shite. This is for utter shite and gossip only, get a grip and get back on track.Rammyblues said:IMO the reasons why this transfer window hasn't gone as smoothly as it should and reasons behind the NDJ sale.
Main reasons
1) 25 man squad rules
2) A need to reduce wages with FFPR
3) A need to freshen up the squad without destroying it.
I have said enough about 25 man squad rules see my other posts.
FFPR - Ade RSC and Bridge to name but three. Done.
Freshening up the squad without wrecking it or planning for the future.
Three problem areas.
1) Tevezgate
2) AJ needing more games to get into England squad, missed out on Euros
3) NDJ not signing contract offered.
IMO
RVP lined up as direct replacement for Tevez once it was established he wasn't leaving end of story.
AJ's lifestyle and the fact wouldn't change or listen to Mancini, sold for a profit and replaced with a younger player probably on less wages Sinclair.
Rodwell was signed to replace NDJ club knew he hadn't signed an extension and from that minute on he became a liability. Yes he would have been professional in doing his job but he was only good at defensive role. Mancini has coveted Rodwell for a couple of seasons and not only could he do NDJs role but he could do other roles as well. Only 20 and would probably be on less wages. As for club policy about sustainability it also means Razak will have the chance of coming through from the academy to the first team to join him as and when Barry leaves.
In terms of Savic in the defence after the Charity Shield Mancini hooked him off at half time I believe he had seen enough to decide needed a direct replacement which is Nastivic. Younger and probably more talented.
Finally the Maicon deal, I reckon Mancini asked for a player DDR/Maicon, DDR too expensive but Maicon available. Only trouble being, a player had to make way for him. Tried to get rid of Kolo but Kolo dug his heals in and decided to stay from that moment the only other player who could leave was NDJ. I reckon Mancini told NDJ he could either leave or not take part in CL, given time was of the essence NDJ contacted AC Milan and we had to sell at a ridiculously low price to get Mancini's player.
The above could be bollocks but it is how I see it.
Rammyblues
Well-Known Member
Fuck off with this rational shite. This is for utter shite and gossip only, get a grip and get back on track.
LOL