It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

Saddleworth2 said:
Zinchenko was instrumental in us winning the PL six days ago. Some of our supporters are incredibly harsh.
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By far the most comfortable LB we have imo

His feet are awesome has anyone focused on Alex's before a game his touch controll is out of this world

I admit when we play against the very best which isn't much maybe knockout Champs League & Liverpool no matter who we play at LB it's a tough challenge but the way Pep plays Zinchenko imo offers way more out wide & linking up with either Jack or Phil gives us far more penatrasion than Cancelo does

Cancelo will probably get LB TOTY & totally deserved but this back end of the season I honestly believe teams have got the better of him driving him inside more reason we were shit on Sunday till the change came

I love Alex hes a great player to have around the team, these players do not grow on trees he has so much technical ability its mad to get rid imo

I would concentrate on Walker/Cancelo RB
Zinchenko/Curchela LB
Rodri/Phillips HM

Haaland No 9
Alvarez replaces Jesus

Don't see Sterling moving on when he will go for free next year along with Gundo & Mahrez IMO
 
I'll be honest I still can't get on board with the Phillips signing. It's got nothing to do with him coming from Leeds. I appreciate we can't bring in another Rodri but the drop in quality from Rodders to Phillips is stark; he'd be a sufficient squad player but if he has to replace Rodri for any lengthy period of time that significantly weakens us in my opinion. By all accounts he won't come cheap now Leeds have avoided relegation, so I'd rather the club spend an additional £10-20mil on a midfielder with Pep DNA.

A poster previously stated there were zero recommendations for Phillips on this forum until we were linked, that sums it up for me.

BUT...it looks like it's happening so I hope Pep proves us wrong once again!
 
colin's bell helmet said:
I think Cucurella is absolutely perfect fit for us, he presses very well he's lighting quick with a great range of passing and his crossing ability is amazing... What's not to like? Other than his hair.
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Personally I'm keen on the hair. We haven't had that kind of do in the group since when Leroy grew his fro out. Something about it completes the team for me.
 
BillyShears said:
There's a tendency to underrate players who are already in the league, and overrate foreign signings on Bluemoon. I'm not saying that this is what you're doing with Phillips and Cucurella, but I do think it's a touch unfair to say "no one wanted Phillips until the links started" and same with Cucurella. If you'd asked me a month ago who were the two players inside the league that I'd take this summer, those two would've been close to the top of my list.

Grealish was the exception that proves the rule last summer if I'm honest. Most people were dazzled by his profile and the fact he's a 'lad'. In general, from Walker to Stones to Raheem. Players we went after from inside the league have always underwhelmed Bluemoon. Just look at the absolute vitriol that Kane got from large swathes of this forum (some of still ongoing for some utterly bizarre reason).

Phillips and Cucurella will both turn out to be top signings IMO. I also think they won't need a season of transition as they're both coming from coaches who play very intense positional play football.
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I fully agree, Walker’s transfer divided opinions and he’s been incredible, yet right now we are imo over hyping Alvarez who is a completely unknown quantity. Both games against Brighton Cucurella was a standout player against the champions of England, something very little players do in the champions league never mind the premier league.
 
Dobsy said:
Personally I'm keen on the hair. We haven't had that kind of do in the group since when Leroy grew his fro out. Something about it completes the team for me.
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I have no shame in admitting I was jealous of Bayern when they signed Leroy at a time when Gnabry had his own afro going on.

If I was in charge of recruitment then I'd make sure we have a big hair XI and a baldie XI.

Priorities.
 
DeBlueLou said:
Palmer and Alvarez for Jesus and Ferran is my thought.
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As purely names and numbers, maybe. As actual players, I just can't see it no matter how hard I try.

People argue replacing a departed fernandinho and mendy with phillips and cucurella makes us weaker. I think the above weakens us more, at least for a season to begon with.
 
bluthrunthru said:
I'll be honest I still can't get on board with the Phillips signing. It's got nothing to do with him coming from Leeds. I appreciate we can't bring in another Rodri but the drop in quality from Rodders to Phillips is stark; he'd be a sufficient squad player but if he has to replace Rodri for any lengthy period of time that significantly weakens us in my opinion. By all accounts he won't come cheap now Leeds have avoided relegation, so I'd rather the club spend an additional £10-20mil on a midfielder with Pep DNA.

A poster previously stated there were zero recommendations for Phillips on this forum until we were linked, that sums it up for me.

BUT...it looks like it's happening so I hope Pep proves us wrong once again!
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Just to be abundantly clear, I’m not going to rush off to the club shop for my Phillips shirt either. This is a forum and it’s all about opinions. I was just calling out what I thought was arrogance. Also, I’m just not keen on slaughtering a guy before he turns up. I kind of get it in regards of an ex rag like Johnny Evans or Ronaldo for example.

I’m more accepting of Cucurella, he looks pretty good. To be fair, so did Phillips up until his latest long injury. That makes it a bit too much of a gamble imho. But, if he comes, I wish him well and I’ll give him a chance like I will any of our blue shirted heroes. I don’t think it’s an easy decision on his part to come here, as Grealish alluded to.
 
bluthrunthru said:
I'll be honest I still can't get on board with the Phillips signing. It's got nothing to do with him coming from Leeds. I appreciate we can't bring in another Rodri but the drop in quality from Rodders to Phillips is stark; he'd be a sufficient squad player but if he has to replace Rodri for any lengthy period of time that significantly weakens us in my opinion. By all accounts he won't come cheap now Leeds have avoided relegation, so I'd rather the club spend an additional £10-20mil on a midfielder with Pep DNA.

A poster previously stated there were zero recommendations for Phillips on this forum until we were linked, that sums it up for me.

BUT...it looks like it's happening so I hope Pep proves us wrong once again!
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Yep, I was in favour of Walker, Stones, Sterling, Ake, I like Cucurella, but I'm disappointed that we had two years to prepare for Fernandinho's departure and the best we could come up with was Phillips. He's a decent but limited player, capable of doing a job, but represents a missed opportunity imo.
 
hgblue said:
Yep, I was in favour of Walker, Stones, Sterling, Ake, I like Cucurella, but I'm disappointed that we had two years to prepare for Fernandinho's departure and the best we could come up with was Phillips. He's a decent but limited player, capable of doing a job, but represents a missed opportunity imo.
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Surely Rodri is the Ferna replacement so he was in affect replaced well before he left. The addition of KP is as a squad player??
 
BillyShears said:
There's a tendency to underrate players who are already in the league, and overrate foreign signings on Bluemoon. I'm not saying that this is what you're doing with Phillips and Cucurella, but I do think it's a touch unfair to say "no one wanted Phillips until the links started" and same with Cucurella. If you'd asked me a month ago who were the two players inside the league that I'd take this summer, those two would've been close to the top of my list.

Grealish was the exception that proves the rule last summer if I'm honest. Most people were dazzled by his profile and the fact he's a 'lad'. In general, from Walker to Stones to Raheem. Players we went after from inside the league have always underwhelmed Bluemoon. Just look at the absolute vitriol that Kane got from large swathes of this forum (some of still ongoing for some utterly bizarre reason).

Phillips and Cucurella will both turn out to be top signings IMO. I also think they won't need a season of transition as they're both coming from coaches who play very intense positional play football.
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People also forget that it’s about adding qualities to the squad we don’t have so we can mix it up
Haaland Is a killer and takes his chances when he gets them, pace, height
Phillip tackles tough, mobile, stamina, hungry for trophies
Cucurella is good moving forward, a good tackler, can go on the outside
Alvarez looks to be clinical in front of goal and a bit of a maverick
Add these to an already top class squad and we should be even better next year

did anyone want rodri, Dias, cancello before we were linked to them????
Pep andTxiki know what they are doing
 
Coatigan said:
As purely names and numbers, maybe. As actual players, I just can't see it no matter how hard I try.

People argue replacing a departed fernandinho and mendy with phillips and cucurella makes us weaker. I think the above weakens us more, at least for a season to begon with.
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We have Sterling,Mahrez,Foden and Grealish who will expect to play a lot next season.
 
bluthrunthru said:
I'll be honest I still can't get on board with the Phillips signing. It's got nothing to do with him coming from Leeds. I appreciate we can't bring in another Rodri but the drop in quality from Rodders to Phillips is stark; he'd be a sufficient squad player but if he has to replace Rodri for any lengthy period of time that significantly weakens us in my opinion. By all accounts he won't come cheap now Leeds have avoided relegation, so I'd rather the club spend an additional £10-20mil on a midfielder with Pep DNA.

A poster previously stated there were zero recommendations for Phillips on this forum until we were linked, that sums it up for me.

BUT...it looks like it's happening so I hope Pep proves us wrong once again!
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I’d prefer a gravenberch signing to be honest, more pace and drive to go box to box but could be back up to rodders and also play along side from time to time
 
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