It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

[waspish]

it`s written by Pol Ballus who is extremely well connected so it would seem there is something in place.

Yeah can believe that and it doesn’t bother me one bit! What we should do starting next season is give Haaland a new contract extension

 

[richards30]

Yeah can believe that and it doesn’t bother me one bit! What we should do starting next season is give Haaland a new contract extension

tolmie mentioned that we were planning to offer him one mate as well.

 

[Centurions]

Does this report has any legs ?

Yes, no, maybe? Who knows.

There is apparently one where it's activated if we're out of the chumps league for 2 seasons on the trot but there's no reason that there isn't multiple release clauses including one activated if the Sheikh gets bored and leaves.

Just because there is a release clause doesn't mean he is going anywhere regardless.

Why don't people just enjoy watching him now instead of giving themselves ulcers worrying about something that may or may not happen 2, 3 or 4 years down the line?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

it`s written by Pol Ballus who is extremely well connected so it would seem there is something in place.

Haaland team asked this of all the interested clubs, it really isn't the thing it is being made out to be.

He is protecting himself and we have done likewise.

Put it this way, the clause decreasing is moot, once it gets to year four, we have to sell, regardless, unless he has renewed.

He also has exit clauses if we are not in the Champions League for two years, or Uefa have kicked us out again!

City will make him the highest-paid player in the world to keep him here, let's also put it that way ;)

 

[vincent]

Haaland team asked this of all the interested clubs, it really isn't the thing it is being made out to be.

He is protecting himself and we have done likewise.

Put it this way, the clause decreasing is moot, once it gets to year four, we have to sell, regardless, unless he has renewed.

He also has exit clauses if we are not in the Champions League for two years, or Uefa have kicked us out again!

City will make him the highest-paid player in the world to keep him here, let's also put it that way ;)

Yep and we know if a player is unhappy/wants to leave then we will let him leave if the buying club meets our valuation. So a release clause is irrelevant.

 

[HalfwayUpTheKippax]

tolmie mentioned that we were planning to offer him one mate as well.

I didn't realise that he is currently Billy no mates.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Yep and we know if a player is unhappy/wants to leave then we will let him leave if the buying club meets our valuation. So a release clause is irrelevant.

Exactly. Call it £125m in year four, there is no way Haaland and his dad will stiff City on a fee by running down year five.

He wouldn't be able to demand an exit clause with any other club.

 

[Gumzy97]

Haaland team asked this of all the interested clubs, it really isn't the thing it is being made out to be.

He is protecting himself and we have done likewise.

Put it this way, the clause decreasing is moot, once it gets to year four, we have to sell, regardless, unless he has renewed.

He also has exit clauses if we are not in the Champions League for two years, or Uefa have kicked us out again!

City will make him the highest-paid player in the world to keep him here, let's also put it that way ;)

Hopefully Haaland is not like Mbappe and demands that type of wage to sign a new deal.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Hopefully Haaland is not like Mbappe and demands that type of wage to sign a new deal.

I wouldn't care. He admitted last week he wants to earn a shitload of cash in his career, and why not?

We'd be in the very fortunate position to be able to offer him and his dad £50m off the books (if that was our thing) and nobody would be any the wiser.

Straight into the Abu Dhabi National Bank, whilst also paying him a nice wage increase on the books.

Even if he extended by an extra year, we would have him until 2028, he'd be 27/28 (his peak) and we would still be able to demand £200m with 12 months left.

We shouldn't care about the cash. A player like Haaland is a generational talent who can provide his worth in terms of trophies and fans.

*Or at the age of 28 we wire them another £100m to sign another extension.

It's all here for him to become a billionaire by the time he is finished. There is nowhere else he needs to go. He can echo in eternity here and plans change, even if there is a stated intention to try different leagues.

City in five years, with Haaland leading the line, would not be the City of today. It would be a Club with no equal.

 

[MafeotulBlue]

I wouldn't care. He admitted last week he wants to earn a shitload of cash in his career, and why not?

We'd be in the very fortunate position to be able to offer him and his dad £50m off the books (if that was our thing) and nobody would be any the wiser.

Straight into the Abu Dhabi National Bank, whilst also paying him a nice wage increase on the books.

Even if he extended by an extra year, we would have him until 2028, he'd be 27/28 (his peak) and we would still be able to demand £200m with 12 months left.

We shouldn't care about the cash. A player like Haaland is a generational talent who can provide his worth in terms of trophies and fans.

*Or at the age of 28 we wire them another £100m to sign another extension.

It's all here for him to become a billionaire by the time he is finished. There is nowhere else he needs to go. He can echo in eternity here and plans change, even if there is a stated intention to try different leagues.

City in five years, with Haaland leading the line, would not be the City of today. It would be a Club with no equal.

Just how CR37 moved the Rags towards different levels, although shortly, or Messi with Barcelona, he will do this with us.

The dynamic will change once we bag the first UCL and the first treble. We are already richer than most clubs on the planet without any cash injection.

Add that success to it, add maybe a Ballon D'or.

I have very positive vibes from this, the kind you get once in a lifetime.

Of course, we could also be eliminated by Benfica in the quarterfinals with Halaand at LB.

 

[Devil's Advocate]

I wouldn't care. He admitted last week he wants to earn a shitload of cash in his career, and why not?

We'd be in the very fortunate position to be able to offer him and his dad £50m off the books (if that was our thing) and nobody would be any the wiser.

Straight into the Abu Dhabi National Bank, whilst also paying him a nice wage increase on the books.

Not sure you've thought this through....

It's exactly what we have been accused of and has the problem of being in breach of football regs and tax regs if not declared.

 

[MafeotulBlue]

Not sure you've thought this through....

Watch Twitter blow up aaaany second now.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Not sure you've thought this through....

It's exactly what we have been accused of and has the problem of being in breach of football regs and tax regs if not declared.

Trying proving it!

Neymar got £47m from Qatar at the push of a button.

Haaland camp only has to declare the tax on what they owe, not what they have been paid to the wider public.

We gave Pellegrini a £3m Lowry as a thank you leaving gift.

Apparently he liked Lowry...

 

[Devil's Advocate]

Trying proving it!

Neymar got £47m from Qatar at the push of a button.

Haaland camp only has to declare the tax on what they owe, not what they have been paid to the wider public.

We gave Pellegrini a £3m Lowry as a thank you leaving gift.

Apparently he liked Lowry...

Trying proving it you say - well subsequent to the Football Leaks (pre-der speigel) there have been lots of tax cases against players. The Spanish ones spring to mind.

You are advocating City evade employer responsibilities and pay off the books, breaking the law and avoiding NIC.
Then there is cheating with the football authorities. Why would they do that? Note the new proposed FFP regs are also more stringent about it as well.

We know HMRC have been very aggressive with City in the past and with football clubs and players generally. There is no tax break for a £3million leaving gift and City presumably would have paid tax on that in the same way we now know they paid tax on the Mancini "hidden" contract.

 

[Sir peace frog]

hes been here 2 months and people are worried that he might leave, relax and enjoy

 

[blueparrot]

hes been here 2 months and people are worried that he might leave, relax and enjoy

Yes, he’ll be here while he’s here he’ll be gone when he’s gone. Nothing we can control so enjoy every minute. When he’s gone 3! Years 5 years 10 years we’ll be fine.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Trying proving it you say - well subsequent to the Football Leaks (pre-der speigel) there have been lots of tax cases against players. The Spanish ones spring to mind.

You are advocating City evade employer responsibilities and pay off the books, breaking the law and avoiding NIC.
Then there is cheating with the football authorities. Why would they do that? Note the new proposed FFP regs are also more stringent about it as well.

We know HMRC have been very aggressive with City in the past and with football clubs and players generally. There is no tax break for a £3million leaving gift and City presumably would have paid tax on that in the same way we now know they paid tax on the Mancini "hidden" contract.

I think you are being naive in the extreme. The UK tax authorities have little power of discovery when it comes to banks in the Emirates.

Much the same as Switzerland.

The Der Spiegel stuff was as a result of a hack of City's shit, internal email system.

You could have been paid £20m today by Sheikh Mansour set up in the Emirates and the footballing authorities and tax people would have no clue.

That money could be held for years or paid at a later date, even after his playing time.

It happens right across football at the highest levels. With regards the HMRC clampdown, this has been more regards image rights and personal service companies.

City pay their employer responsibilities and subsequent NIC, which is a completely separate issue to me saying a payment at a later date coming directly from our owner would not be on the radar.

*If such a scenario was ever in play.

 

[MafeotulBlue]

Just waiting for the next The Athletic article, followed by a barrage of Youtube videos because of the above.

 

[Jazzman]

Just waiting for the next The Athletic article, followed by a barrage of Youtube videos because of the above.

Exactly and Spiegel will write new articles because the possibilities being discussed here. Let's hope Bluemoon is not being hacked. A new 2 year ban from CL is on the horizon.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Not sure you've thought this through....

It's exactly what we have been accused of and has the problem of being in breach of football regs and tax regs if not declared.

Why would Haaland not declare it?

The income would not have come directly from City.

He could have been paid as an ambassador for Abu Dhabi, just as Neymar was by Qatar.

Haaland doesn't need to divulge other sources of his income for the general public to decide which of it is acceptable and legal.

He gets paid by boot sponsors, nobody knows how much outside of his sponsors.