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WHINING ?

Yes whining, thought it was a bit pathetic really. He said how can someone who does not see him play football, does not see him train etc see if he is good enough. That has literally fuck all to do with it. The Home Office makes decisions based on tangible indicators like international caps. Not stuff that can't be measured like 'he is well good at football' because that would be a stupid policy and open to criticism / accusations of bias. The exceptional talent rule might be a bit more nebulous a concept but still requires actual evidence as it should, otherwise every club in the land could get work permits for every player just by deciding they were pretty good. Whether that system is right or wrong is irrelevant, it is fair and applies to every single team in the country - and frankly are far nicer to young footballers than other young foreign men coming here for a job.

The fact of the matter is Douglas Luiz could walk on water and score 90 yard headers, if he doesn't meet their criteria he isn't going to get a permit and Pep moaning about "the system" in press conferences is beneath him and the kind of thing managers like Mourinho do.
 
Yes whining, thought it was a bit pathetic really. He said how can someone who does not see him play football, does not see him train etc see if he is good enough. That has literally fuck all to do with it. The Home Office makes decisions based on tangible indicators like international caps. Not stuff that can't be measured like 'he is well good at football' because that would be a stupid policy and open to criticism / accusations of bias. The exceptional talent rule might be a bit more nebulous a concept but still requires actual evidence as it should, otherwise every club in the land could get work permits for every player just by deciding they were pretty good. Whether that system is right or wrong is irrelevant, it is fair and applies to every single team in the country - and frankly are far nicer to young footballers than other young foreign men coming here for a job.

The fact of the matter is Douglas Luiz could walk on water and score 90 yard headers, if he doesn't meet their criteria he isn't going to get a permit and Pep moaning about "the system" in press conferences is beneath him and the kind of thing managers like Mourinho do.

Well, maybe Pep didn't admit the gamble for Luiz's Brazil caps went down the drain
after best friend Txiki asked Pep to publically blame Home Office instead - hoping nerds like you wouldn't figure out the red herring... ;-)
 
Yes whining, thought it was a bit pathetic really. He said how can someone who does not see him play football, does not see him train etc see if he is good enough. That has literally fuck all to do with it. The Home Office makes decisions based on tangible indicators like international caps. Not stuff that can't be measured like 'he is well good at football' because that would be a stupid policy and open to criticism / accusations of bias. The exceptional talent rule might be a bit more nebulous a concept but still requires actual evidence as it should, otherwise every club in the land could get work permits for every player just by deciding they were pretty good. Whether that system is right or wrong is irrelevant, it is fair and applies to every single team in the country - and frankly are far nicer to young footballers than other young foreign men coming here for a job.

The fact of the matter is Douglas Luiz could walk on water and score 90 yard headers, if he doesn't meet their criteria he isn't going to get a permit and Pep moaning about "the system" in press conferences is beneath him and the kind of thing managers like Mourinho do.
Rags hace got loads of players through without any work permit issues
 
The fact of the matter is Douglas Luiz could walk on water and score 90 yard headers, if he doesn't meet their criteria he isn't going to get a permit and Pep moaning about "the system" in press conferences is beneath him and the kind of thing managers like Mourinho do.
This is mostly true, except there is actually is a subjective review if the player doesn't qualify based on the objective criteria. The standard is very high but thats why the club had Tite write a letter endorsing him, got Guardiola involved, and presumable produced whatever else they thought might help. It certainly seems like we miscalculated in any case.
 
How we could have done with Douglas Luiz last season especially as respite for Fernandinho. I liked what I saw of Luiz last summer, so here's hoping we can sort his work permit issue, so he can spend a season shadowing Fernandinho alongside Rodri.
 

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