It's Quiet 32 - enter at own risk

You'd presume that would mean we aren't expect to sell big as well, i.e Sané.

Not saying it wouldn't be the case, but Stadium Expansion doesn't count towards FFP and It seems odd that we would secure a loan against a seasons ticket sales to fund it. Could be completely wrong though
 
These loans are to ease cashflow. Football clubs are effectively, from a trading point of view, closed for the summer months and this is the time when they spend on transfers especially, more difficult if paying buy out clause with the money up front. Skeikh Mansour could front the money but it makes it better from a PR point of view to source from external
 
Football clubs are a weird business. You have constant large outgoings and the majority of your income comes from substantial irregular amounts. I suspect this is a very common practice for us and every other club in the world and wouldn’t read anything into it. More likely to be a simple cash flow/balancing issue than anything else. Won’t stop somebody claiming it’s yet more “financial doping” though.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Football clubs are a weird business. You have constant large outgoings and the majority of your income comes from substantial irregular amounts. I suspect this is a very common practice for us and every other club in the world and wouldn’t read anything into it. More likely to be a simple cash flow/balancing issue than anything else. Won’t stop somebody claiming it’s yet more “financial doping” though.
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Come on man...the line is that he's finally got board and looking to sell. :)
 
I've got a feeling these loan's could have something to do with ffp.Ffp is structured in such a way that it is fine to subsidise your club through debt but wrong to subsidise a clubs income via a rich benefactor! So by taking out these loans we can match the spending of other big clubs without breaking ffp rules. If in the future ffp is done away with our owner could simply clear those debts and convert them into shares!
 
Whats in this new Sporting link? Keep seeing total unknown players popping up in media that we are about to pay 20-30-40 m for them and straight give them to Sporting on loan. Some Turkish player, some another from Brazil etc.
 
riggymcfc123 said:
I've got a feeling these loan's could have something to do with ffp.Ffp is structured in such a way that it is fine to subsidise your club through debt but wrong to subsidise a clubs income via a rich benefactor! So by taking out these loans we can match the spending of other big clubs without breaking ffp rules. If in the future ffp is done away with our owner could simply clear those debts and convert them into shares!
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Nope. FFP focuses on profit and loss, loans are balance sheet. Loans have absolutely no effect on our ability to spend under FFPR.
 
roxy said:
Looks like the Barclays loan we took out in May plus another we took from Barclays last year have been repaid. Both these charges are now shown as satisfied. So it’s just the HSBC one now.
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To be clear, it's overwhelmingly likely that these loans have nothing to do with transfers. They're very standard cash flow management transactions.
 
Think we'll add a third choice keeper (Asier Riesgo) and Cancelo, if Danilo leaves. Don't think we'll go for a centre half now.
 
Ric said:
Think we'll add a third choice keeper (Asier Riesgo) and Cancelo, if Danilo leaves. Don't think we'll go for a centre half now.
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I feel like any moves we make now will be opportunistic or last minute.

If preseason doesn't go well at CB maybe we'll get Aké late on, or if Bruno Fernandes doesn't move and we end up with space for him in the squad, maybe we'll go back for him at the price we offered Sporting before they changed their demand. If Danilo finds a new home, Cancelo can come in.

But the squad we have now could be the one we have when the window closes, and that's fine.
 
Ric said:
Think we'll add a third choice keeper (Asier Riesgo) and Cancelo, if Danilo leaves. Don't think we'll go for a centre half now.
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That just seems a massive risk, Otamendi and Stones don't convince me, especially in crunch periods. Going into the season with just three CBs and Fernandinho as backup is a gamble that we don't need to take.
 
Ric said:
Think we'll add a third choice keeper (Asier Riesgo) and Cancelo, if Danilo leaves. Don't think we'll go for a centre half now.
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think it would be a mistake not buy a centre half.

Ive not got the confidence in Ottomendi others have and im not sure the young lads are ready.....I know Ferna can play there probably but we do need someone dominating and we dont have that. considering Peps direct comments about his concerns about our vulnerability in terms of a lack of height and then losing our best aerial defendier in Kompany I cannto imagine he would be comfortable with not buying another centre half.

Having said that I understand completely why we wont pay inflated fees/wages for players such as Maguire or De Ligt. Maybe we should be looking at someone young but upcoming that fits the bill but that doesnt have the media profile of someone like De Ligt - I

dont think any of the younger lads coming through fit the full profile either (Ie the aerially dominating part, albeit very good with the ball at their feet) - could be wrong
 
City_Sean said:
That just seems a massive risk, Otamendi and Stones don't convince me, especially in crunch periods. Going into the season with just three CBs and Fernandinho as backup is a gamble that we don't need to take.
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It's a risk but hard not to trust Pep, Txiki etc after the last two seasons.

I thought not have an extra DM last season was a huge risk but overall we managed fine.
 
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