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I see all them things as being out of the hands of the board at the time of the divide. However one thing that the board have got massively wrong and one of the very main reasons they have this toxic divide is a lack of planning. How so many players have been able to run contracts down to the final year is unbelievably shocking. I don't think they will make this mistake again, if they do they are idiots.

None of those things were out of the boards hands, you might see it that way, but you'd be wrong. They decide when Wenger signs his deal by offering a deadline. Sign by X/X/2016 or we will find a replacement. Same for the players. Sign or we'll sell you, you can't just run down your value as an asset. Or just give them the money and promises they need to sign.

It's what every other club in the world does.
 
None of those things were out of the boards hands, you might see it that way, but you'd be wrong. They decide when Wenger signs his deal by offering a deadline. Sign by X/X/2016 or we will find a replacement. Same for the players. Sign or we'll sell you, you can't just run down your value as an asset. Or just give them the money and promises they need to sign.

It's what every other club in the world does.
And i completely agree with that. The boards lack of plan is what got them in a big mess that come at the same time as a fan divide. But i don't think they will continue to make such huge mistakes. And I imagine they have had many meetings about the mess and how to stop it happening again in the future. I don't think we will see them making the same mistake again. My only argument here is saying they don't care about what the fans think, I completely disagree with that statement.
 
And i completely agree with that. The boards lack of plan is what got them in a big mess that come at the same time as a fan divide. But i don't think they will continue to make such huge mistakes. And I imagine they have had many meetings about the mess and how to stop it happening again in the future. I don't think we will see them making the same mistake again. My only argument here is saying they don't care about what the fans think, I completely disagree with that statement.

As long as the revenue they garner from fans isn't adversely affected then they couldn't give a shit about the fans, same as any club.
 
And i completely agree with that. The boards lack of plan is what got them in a big mess that come at the same time as a fan divide. But i don't think they will continue to make such huge mistakes. And I imagine they have had many meetings about the mess and how to stop it happening again in the future. I don't think we will see them making the same mistake again. My only argument here is saying they don't care about what the fans think, I completely disagree with that statement.

Ah, I see now, you're basing your opinion on the idea that Arsenal's board will suddenly stop acting the same way they've always acted, for no apparent reason, other than a set of circumstances they've been in half a dozen times before.

The idea that they'll act one way because they've always done the opposite at every opportunity in the past is an interesting one, if not setting yourself up for disappointment when they inevitably do what they always do.
 
Some appear to know a great deal more about how they think Arsenal go about things than how City actually do!
In all honesty there is a lot of material out there gathered over the years describing how Arsenal go about things. With respect to this deal will it happen who knows. Sanchez is not due back for another couple of weeks so this is likely to drag.
 
None of those things were out of the boards hands, you might see it that way, but you'd be wrong. They decide when Wenger signs his deal by offering a deadline. Sign by X/X/2016 or we will find a replacement. Same for the players. Sign or we'll sell you, you can't just run down your value as an asset. Or just give them the money and promises they need to sign.

It's what every other club in the world does.
Although we've not done that with Milner, Zabba, Clichy, Sagna, Willy and Navas. Fernandinho is out of contract next summer as is Kolorov.
 
Although we've not done that with Milner, Zabba, Clichy, Sagna, Willy and Navas. Fernandinho is out of contract next summer as is Kolorov.

Pretty shocking attempt at a comparison, Zabaleta, Clichy, Sagna, Navas and Willy were players we wanted to let go and Fernandinho is a player who's 33 in May and the club are probably considering letting go.

The fact you're comparing them to Oxlade Chamberlain, Ozil and Sanchez says it all....they treat their best players like we treat the 30+ year old veterans we want rid of.
 
Pretty shocking attempt at a comparison, Zabaleta, Clichy, Sagna, Navas and Willy were players we wanted to let go and Fernandinho is a player who's 33 in May and the club are probably considering letting go.

The fact you're comparing them to Oxlade Chamberlain, Ozil and Sanchez says it all....they treat their best players like we treat the 30+ year old veterans we want rid of.
I wasn't comparing per se, but they've all signed for new clubs in a top division, with the possible exception of Sagna. Suggests we might have had our planning wrong, that's all.
 
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