It's Quiet - a new dawn

[Trautmann's Chiropractor]

I have seen very little of Maffeo. The games I have watched him in, he has looked good.

I have seen literally every minute Navas has played for us. He has not looked good. He works hard...that is it.

You just said you think Maffeo is currently as good as Navas, without actually seeing much of Maffeo.

But I get what you're saying, in an ideal world it'd be amazing if we could supplement our first team with all our academy prospects. Unfortunately it rarely work out that way. If we were to get rid of Navas (who has played well at RB, so much so he's now our first choice) and bring in a main RB target like Walker, then we'd still need a back up option.

That would mean either bringing Maffeo into contention, where he gets an occasional game, hampering his progression because he's not playing nearly enough games to improve. Or we bring in another RB to play second fiddle to Walker on a minimum of a 3 year deal and thus minimizing Maffeo's chances of game time, hampering his progression.

Or we could just offer the player who's out of contract in a few months a new deal, where he can play when required and isn't tied to a long contract while our youngster can go out to a loan club where he plays week in, week out.

If you're worried about Navas still being a City player next season, watch the next game he plays closely. He's been decent in his new role and more than capable of being second choice.

 

[CWMCFC]

Patience is fine but you are also requiring us to play Navas at RB so its not as simple as you make out.

Last summer we desperately needed 2 CBs. Instead we got one and Kolarov.

We also need 1 LB and 1 RB. Instead we got Clichy, Kolarov, Sagna, and Zabs.

Making due with what we had and being patient cost us dearly this past summer.

If Maffeo is not ready, fine...but the answer is not Navas.

He isn't the answer, and that's why we'll be buying a first choice RB at a great expense.

Navas is fine to have as a backup - he's been better at fullback than he has winger this season and has very little experience playing there. He was thrown into the deep end and played well as a result - give him a pre-season playing there and he'll get even more used to the role. Rumour is Sampaoli wanted him as a RB at Sevilla and they, as a club, have a great eye for building a team/spotting potential.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Surely, if they are exactly what we need, we should be excited about them - or am I missing something?

I think people would get more excited by us signing Sanchez or Griezmann rather than Kyle Walker. But the thing is, we're more in need of Kyle Walker than we are the other two. You tend to get more excited about the things you like rather than what you need. I'm sure you'd get more excited about your two week holiday than getting a new boiler, but needs must sometimes.

 

[Thenumber1blue]

heard from a pretty good source sanchez is all but done..

Fuckin hope so,i've got 16's

 

[mosssideblue]

I think people would get more excited by us signing Sanchez or Griezmann rather than Kyle Walker. But the thing is, we're more in need of Kyle Walker than we are the other two. You tend to get more excited about the things you like rather than what you need. I'm sure you'd get more excited about your two week holiday than getting a new boiler, but needs must sometimes.

Cannot argue with that - well put :)

 

[BlueDeadHead]

You just said you think Maffeo is currently as good as Navas, without actually seeing much of Maffeo.

But I get what you're saying, in an ideal world it'd be amazing if we could supplement our first team with all our academy prospects. Unfortunately it rarely work out that way. If we were to get rid of Navas (who has played well at RB, so much so he's now our first choice) and bring in a main RB target like Walker, then we'd still need a back up option.

That would mean either bringing Maffeo into contention, where he gets an occasional game, hampering his progression because he's not playing nearly enough games to improve. Or we bring in another RB to play second fiddle to Walker on a minimum of a 3 year deal and thus minimizing Maffeo's chances of game time, hampering his progression.

Or we could just offer the player who's out of contract in a few months a new deal, where he can play when required and isn't tied to a long contract while our youngster can go out to a loan club where he plays week in, week out.

If you're worried about Navas still being a City player next season, watch the next game he plays closely. He's been decent in his new role and more than capable of being second choice.

No I think we both understand what the other is saying. I have watched Navas at RB and its Kolarov at CB all over again. He doesn't completely fuck up like he does regularly in his natural position and people heap praise on him. I personally think it is a matter of expectations being set low.

So we are left with, as you say, the tough choice. Keep the old guy as a backup and let the kid get playing time elsewhere, or let the old guy go and give the kid less playing time but put him in and around the squad.

After watching the last 8 months I want the latter.

 

[Thenumber1blue]

Surely, if they are exactly what we need, we should be excited about them - or am I missing something?

Erm centre midfield ?

 

[BlueDeadHead]

He isn't the answer, and that's why we'll be buying a first choice RB at a great expense.

Navas is fine to have as a backup - he's been better at fullback than he has winger this season and has very little experience playing there. He was thrown into the deep end and played well as a result - give him a pre-season playing there and he'll get even more used to the role. Rumour is Sampaoli wanted him as a RB at Sevilla and they, as a club, have a great eye for building a team/spotting potential.

If he isn't the answer then we need to buy two RBs not extend a guy we should have gotten rid of already.

 

[mosssideblue]

Erm centre midfield ?

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[Marvin]

Then 9/1 at Skybet is great value. I thought Emerson was dead certain though hence his actions on Instagram etc.

After the difficulties Bravo has had adapting I think an English keeper is a safer bet. Knows what they physical demands are. I'm sure we'll buy a keeper. Just getting a solid keeper like Cech, Schmeichel, Cudicini etc would make a huge difference. I don't think you can win a title without a top keeper. Will be the most important move of the Summer.