It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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alexmcity said:
Griezmann? He wasn't even a Barca player when they lost 4:0 at Anfield. I don't think Messi was great there.

For you Barca may be full with players of Everton's quality who let down Messi again and again. I think that's naive. Their pressing/defensive game is bad partly because Messi contributes nothing to it.

Of course, I might be completely mistaken and the union of Pep and Messi at City will make us as good as Barca 09-11. Or better!

How much would you pay to have Messi at City? 100m? 200m? 300? And what would be your expectations in terms of goals and trophies?
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Sorry, Rakitic. Wrong blonde bloke in the highlights I just watched to remind myself of the chances he created.

You can think Messi wasn't good, but that's a ridiculous opinion. Any forward who creates 3 1v1 opportunities for his teammates to score had a good game. Any team in the world should be able to defend a 4-0 lead.

Messi makes as many defensive actions - pressing, tackling, interceptions - as Silva was making a few years ago. The idea Barcelona are carrying a passenger is another weird fiction people are trying to speak into existence.

The reality is that Suarez can't run at all, Dembele doesn't defend, Busquets can't run, Vidal's legs have gone, Rakitic's legs have gone. They're an old side full of players who can't press, it's not 1 player causing their issues.

You pay whatever it takes, because long term you make money on it.
 
alexmcity said:
Good. How much would you pay to have Messi at City? 200 m? 300 m? What about his wages? Double what KDB gets? Or triple?
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The only way I’d accept such a transfer is if it was a good move wage wise where officially he agrees to a fiver a week.
 
domalino said:
Barcelona have been relying on Messi for pretty much all their playmaking since Neymar left. Iniesta was kind of past it for his last 6-12 months- still good, but not Iniesta.

Since then, he's been in a team where you can pretty much stick 2 or 3 men on Messi, because ultimately, what's Rakitic, Busquets, Vidal and Sergi Roberto gonna do? Dembele is always injured, Suarez doesn't create anything for himself anymore.

The difference it will make if he goes somewhere with players the calibre of KDB and Bernardo Silva around him in midfield will be terrifying. You put 3 men on Messi, and you're giving KDB 10 yards of free space every time he's on the ball.

He's not been in a team where the opposition have to try to defend against 3 or 4 world class attacking players and not just focus on him since the Messi-Suarez-Neymar days.
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100% agree.

The disrespect for Messi on this forum is absolutely astounding. He is arguably the greatest player to ever play the game.

He definitely won't leave Barca in my opinion as nobody will be able to afford his 1.2m a week wages and Barca will never sell him unless he runs his contract down.
 
domalino said:
Sorry, Rakitic. Wrong blonde bloke.

You can think Messi wasn't good, but it's wrong. Any forward who creates 3 1v1 opportunities for his teammates to score had a good game.

You pay whatever it takes, because long term you make money on it.
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Whatever it takes? Even 250m?

We scored 169 goals in 18/19. How many will we score with Messi then? 189? And win the quadruple?

If Pep wants Messi, then I want him too. But I'm not convinced he will make us really better as a team, especially in the big games where running a lot as a team will be key to our defensive form.
 
alexmcity said:
Whatever it takes? Even 250m?

We have scored 169 goals in 18/19. How many will we score with Messi then? 189? And win the quadruple?

If Pep wants Messi, then I want him too. But I'm not convinced he will make us really better as a team, especially in the big games where running a lot as a team will be key to our defensive form.
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It's not about how many we score, it's about how many we don't score. It's about sinking the chance at 0-0 and 1-0 or losing 0-1.

Even if we score the same number of goals, it's about which goals you score. They aren't all equal.
 
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