It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

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DorisBlue said:
I mean if he plays them. We lose and players like mahrez and gundo are left on bench or at home

We agree. I dont blame pep though, his legacy is/will be trophies, not giving foden (or similar) his debut
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However if he manages to win trophies and drop feed kids into the team over time his legacy will be a partly homegrown winning team which is the nirvana the board are looking for long term
 
Keeper! said:
That's the issue , he is a top player, but he could and there is an argument he should be the best player in the world now.

Ronaldo and Messi are past their best, but Neymar has not taken the mantle.

Nothing to do with ability, he is outstanding but not got the desire week in week out.
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I'd argue that playing in the French league hasn't helped him with this at all. When youre expected to walk every domestic competition every year then it can't be good desire or development.
 
Keeper! said:
Because he plays in a league where he is going through the motions, he can play in that league on autopilot.

He is far too good for that.

Why did he go to PSG? Money No1.
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Neymar would have gone to any club other than Barça and money would have been the reason as well. Don't believe that's really a factor. I don't get why he had to go to a certain league or club to prove he wants to be the best.

This argument is on the same level as those saying 'Pep has it so easy why doesn't he coach a championship team on a tight budget then?' We know it's rubbish.

He took that chance to go PSG because if he stayed Barça he would have always been under Messi's shadow, he wanted to win Balon D'Or with a different outfit and prove he is really good on his own. Obviously, doesn't help PSG haven't quite lived up to hype and the team has suffered bad choke outs in CL, so it's just natural the blame will go towards Neymar even if he isn't part of the issue at all. The project hasn't been kind to him.
 
DorisBlue said:
I have no problem with signing foreign young players developing them and selling for a profit. Its what keeps us ffp compliant (without having to reign back spending or wages). If you do, you’ll also need to sign the type of player a foreign team may want and often that isn’t a prem style player.

But the knock on is that the local/english lads get squeezed out at a younger age and the later developers dont get their chance.

Other than foden, none of the academy players we’ve had long term have done anything noteworthy or been sold for anything substantial. THB may change that but its a huge if.

Its easy to sign a player at 16 and finish their development and ship for a profit. But we have been extremely poor at properly developing a premier league player. Meanwhile most other top teams are creating 1 or 2 per season.

I assume its not a major target for the academy, but I’d like it to be.
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It should be.

And some players are 'made' by playing first team football, early.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I find him one of the most annoying, loathesome characters personally. But not only that, the number of times he has ignored Gabriel Jesus or ruined moves for Brazil, insisting on wanting to do it all himself, has me pulling my hair out. Same watching him play for PSG v a team I don't like.

I personally hate watching him, full stop.
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He hasn't had a decent coach for a while
 
catalyst said:
Neymar would have gone to any club other than Barça and money would have been the reason as well. Don't believe that's really a factor. I don't get why he had to go to a certain league or club to prove he wants to be the best.

This argument is on the same level as those saying 'Pep has it so easy why doesn't he coach a championship team on a tight budget then?' We know it's rubbish.

He took that chance to go PSG because if he stayed Barça he would have always been under Messi's shadow, he wanted to win Balon D'Or with a different outfit and prove he is really good on his own. Obviously, doesn't help PSG haven't quite lived up to hype and the team has suffered bad choke outs in CL, so it's just natural the blame will go towards Neymar even if he isn't part of the issue at all. The project hasn't been kind to him.
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Why under Messi's shadow?

He is 5 years younger, he now could be the new king of Barca, not playing in a second rate league.

He went for the money, he may be incredibly rich but as a footballer his talent deserves a better stage to play on.
 
catalyst said:
No one will actually tell you because there is none. Just word of mouth gets around and his rep got worse, now everyone you ask is an expert on Neymar calling him a **** when they barely watch him play in the so called poor league which has embarrassed us twice in CL quarterfinals.
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Flips around on the floor at the slightest touch, screaming in pain. Simultaneously acts like a tough guy and says shit like "the only regret I have is not hitting him in the face" after gently slapping someone on the back of the head. Consistently whinges at referees, opponents and his own teammates. Doesn't give a shit about pissing off his own club's supporters. The list goes on.

He's a bitch, that's all there is to it. Football is entertainment for all of those not directly working in the industry and Neymar sucks all the entertainment out of it for me. Which is astonishing when you consider just how good he is. I can watch YouTube videos of him all day but whenever I watch him in a game he makes my eyes roll more than he does after getting a tap on the ankle.

And don't act like nobody has watched him before, he's hardly an obscure up and coming player.
 
flook said:
And a c***, you forgot to add "and a c***", which is why I've never wanted him at my club
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Fair enough, quite a few people think that. I personally don't care How much of a ****, instagram nobhead or gobshite a player is as long as he is consistently brilliant enough on the pitch to make City win at least two, preferably three trophies every single season. I want us to dominate. Destroy all hope the red shits have of matching us. I don't want to see rags or scousers lifting trophies.
 
Semper aggressus said:
Fair enough, quite a few people think that. I personally don't care How much of a ****, instagram nobhead or gobshite a player is as long as he is consistently brilliant enough on the pitch to make City win at least two, preferably three trophies every single season. I want us to dominate. Destroy all hope the red shits have of matching us. I don't want to see rags or scousers lifting trophies.
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Seconded . That's two of us then ...well it's a start!
 
Semper aggressus said:
Fair enough, quite a few people think that. I personally don't care How much of a ****, instagram nobhead or gobshite a player is as long as he is consistently brilliant enough on the pitch to make City win at least two, preferably three trophies every single season. I want us to dominate. Destroy all hope the red shits have of matching us. I don't want to see rags or scousers lifting trophies.
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How times change ...

Remember when we used to worship players who were fully paid up members of the cvnt/gobshite club, but gave their all for City (Bellamy anyone?)
 
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